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The Marc Times Racing News Is, No More Lot's Of Racing Memories

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:18 PM

We had contact with Dick Beebe today and he advised that the Marc Times Racing News is now officially done.
Things come and go and we are just glad Dick's paper lasted all these years.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:29 PM

Certainly sad news! The whole Beebe/Marc Times/Dealers Choice empire seemed to slowly fizzle out after Pat was gone.
Time marches on!
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:47 PM

Any possibilty of them selling their subscriber's list?
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:02 PM

QUOTE (Gunner @ Jul 1 2008, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any possibilty of them selling their subscriber's list?


You'd have to contact Dick Beebe and ask.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE (Gunner @ Jun 30 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any possibilty of them selling their subscriber's list?


If they actually had one, they might.

Terry Fitzwater has been trying to negotiate with them, but that has been the big stickling point. No one has a REAL subscribers list, as to the actual number. That's why no one can do anything to help keep it alive. You can't offer a price for something when you don't have an actual number to work with, to offer a price.

It's too bad, that paper was my lifeline to local short track racing when I was a kid.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:22 AM

QUOTE (BigEd @ Jul 1 2008, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's too bad, that paper was my lifeline to local short track racing when I was a kid.

Ditto! i used to borrow my uncles all the time. (still "borrowing' the ones with me in them)
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:51 AM

I feel like I just lost a freind. I remember reading the stories from all the tracks and looking at the pictures and advertisements especially when the DC ads started running in late july. Dad has years of old copies so I will enjoy the MARC Times for years to come but my kids will never get the thrill of a new copy in the mail. too bad.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:38 AM

It may hurt to lose the Marc Times, but we should also be thankful that we have the Michigan Racing Scene now.

Just think if we didn't!!!

After Pat passed, things just were not the same. That is tough, tough stuff that every one of us have had to deal with at one time or another. Trying to get through one day is hard, let alone the rest of your life, and a business, that she had an intrical part in.

I planned my day around the mail delivery when I was a kid, just waiting for the Marc Times. But I also started to get disappointed with it too, in the latter years.

Terry has a great paper, and strongly supports all of our local race tracks. Unless we want to lose this paper too, we need to support him also.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 12:42 PM

I moved this topic here to get a little bit more attention.

I will be creating a subforum on here for anyone that writes/wrote a column for the Marc Times to continue to do so here at the MSTRC.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (MSTRC_CEO88 @ Jul 1 2008, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I moved this topic here to get a little bit more attention.

I will be creating a subforum on here for anyone that writes/wrote a column for the Marc Times to continue to do so here at the MSTRC.



That's cool................we can still "Keep up with the Times" so to speak!
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:25 PM

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That's cool................we can still "Keep up with the Times" so to speak!


That's the goal Rob
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 03:39 PM

Here's front page Headers of the Marc Times going back to 1968:
http://www.marctimes.com/history.htm
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 03:44 PM

Here is the Dealers Choice Memories page, which someone ought to copy so when the Marc Times website goes down someone has this info:
http://www.marctimes...dealers_choice/
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:03 AM

THIS IS VERY SAD NEWS. JUST ABOUT HAVE A COMPLETE SET FROM 1965 UNTIL THE END. HAVING BEEN A COLUMNIST FOR THE PAPER SINCE 1975, WE HAVE GREAT MEMORIES OF ALL THE RACES AND STORIES WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO TELL. HOWEVER THANKS TO TERRY WE CONTINUE TO TELL THOSE TALES AND GUESS NOW WE ADD THE QUIZ. STAY OFF THE WALL, SEE YA!
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (BigEd @ Jul 1 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they actually had one, they might.

Terry Fitzwater has been trying to negotiate with them, but that has been the big stickling point. No one has a REAL subscribers list, as to the actual number. That's why no one can do anything to help keep it alive. You can't offer a price for something when you don't have an actual number to work with, to offer a price.

It's too bad, that paper was my lifeline to local short track racing when I was a kid.



They would have to have a Subscribers List!
How else did people get their Marc Times in the mail every week?

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:57 AM

It is NOT updated dude, go ask Terry.

That is a great question, I wondered that myself. Probably has a lot to do with why they have to close the doors, ehh??

Sad sad stuff man.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:16 AM

It is sad to see it go. I found it informational, controversial and educational. Dick was never shy about telling his feelings and I know over the years
he rubbed some promoters the wrong way. It happens in the media business. But I always respected him for voicing his opinion. Some I agreed with and some I didn't. icon_smile.gif

I wrote several articles for Dick years ago but then switched to the National glossy magazines. icon_smile.gif I still missed at times being a part time contributor to Dicks paper.

I believe there are very few racers who can say that the Marc Time's never touched their hands over the years. He did a great job of covering races from all over and I sometimes marveled at how he could cram so much into a small paper.

Sad to see but times are changing I guess ( and no pun intended either ).

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 12:19 PM

I wish I had a nickel for every time Roger has ask me "did my Marc Times come today?"

I wonder if he will issue a refund for issues not delivered? Roger had just renewed several months ago.

I myself had a magazine go out of business (House and Garden) and I was subscribed until 2012. With the economy the way it is. It might be a good thing not to get too far ahead on any of your subscriptions.

Too bad about the Marc Times.....our garage of full of them. National Speed Sport News is also a good weekly and covers all racng. Our garage is full of those too.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 12:56 PM

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I wish I had a nickel for every time Roger has ask me "did my Marc Times come today?"

I wonder if he will issue a refund for issues not delivered? Roger had just renewed several months ago.

I myself had a magazine go out of business (House and Garden) and I was subscribed until 2012. With the economy the way it is. It might be a good thing not to get too far ahead on any of your subscriptions.

Too bad about the Marc Times.....our garage of full of them. National Speed Sport News is also a good weekly and covers all racng. Our garage is full of those too.



I know a bit off topic but it paralells your though on paying those subscriptions to far in advance......

I was reading one time about a magazine dedicated to informing people about "The End Times". They published a bi-monthy magazine.........they sent out to their subscribers those renewal forms and with them the option to subscribe for a lifetime!!!!!!! Uhm, hey what's wrong with that picture????

But, on keeping with the topic, I'm sad to see it go. Over the years I'd grab one every week at the track or wherever I could find one. It's too bad really. But, thanks to the "Flounder" he's made an outlet for all those columnists yearning to spew!!!
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 01:14 PM

Theres nothing ever gona replace Dealers Choice at Crystal great times!!!!!!
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