stinkfist
Aug 13 2007, 07:58 PM
I just heard that Chad Lamson was suspended for a week from Dixie for doing exactly nothing wrong. Dixie speedway has a tap out rule to allow a driver who spun another driver to accept responsibility for the incident. Chad got into the back of the #17 car in his feature and pulled up to the track official to admit guilt in the spin and go to the rear. When he got there he was told to load it. This was not a slam into the back of someone....it was a spin under power and was obviously a racing thing. After this incident he was hit in the REAR QUARTER AND BUMPER on the exit of the track by Rob Kern. (This was witnessed by many people.) Chad drove immediately to a pit security person to let them know Rob ran into THE BACK of his car and gave him a chunk of the orange paint off the rear quarter and bumper of his car to prove it. The security guy held up his flashlight and looked at it. Apparently after the races Rob and his dad went to Mike Kern and blamed this incident on Chad. Chad has been blacked flagged twice in the last two weeks. The last one the car he bumped never even spun (It was of course Rob KERN!) It is very apparent Dixie does not want Chad Lamson to continue to race there let alone win their championship. Is it also coincidence that Mike KERNS personal vehicle says "BOB KERN AUTO REPAIR" on the side of it. This is some of the most obvious predjudicial treatment I have ever wittnessed at a track. They have teched his car more closely than any other car in his class, and he has not complained. They just made the decision that he will not win their championship. Mike Kern is a hypocrite.
nate
Aug 14 2007, 12:16 AM
yeah i was there that was night right..they dont have any fast cars out there able to compete with chad except for lonnie..those are the 2 fastest and the 4 car is pretty fast,,but come one it is getting out of hand,,why not put up a bigger purse to beat him,,,,cuz they cant,,why not give a bigger pay for someone to get fast time,simple they cant...let them suspend him for a week,then let him come back set fast time,win his heat race,win the feature.win figure 8,,cuz thats what hes goning to do,,,but there is no compitition at dixi for chad..he just out classed everybody in the lead slead....theyre probably paying more money to knock chad out...are you sure is care wasnt tampered with when he hit the wall...i know it dint happen but come on...dont hate the player hate the games their playing...kick there ass chad
tricknology
Aug 14 2007, 07:45 AM
IMHO,,
for most lead sled,and fwd 4 cyl classes,, i would impose a handicap after a racer gets 2 feature wins.
It would NOt be extra weight.
It would be reducing the exhaust pipe outlet size.
If the rules allow a 2 inch outlet maximum on your exhaust,,,after 2 feature wins it would be reduced to 1 3/4 inches.
this would work.
waht is the exhaust rule for Dixie?
thanks,
Arnold.
PotatoHead
Aug 14 2007, 12:19 PM
why is it when you do your homework work on your car and are by the rules everyone wants slow you down i bet chad wants to put smaller exhaust on and burn his valves up let the rest work on their cars and get faster that is why its called racing good job chad keep it up but try not to let it get to you it doesnt get any better just keep having fun
tricknology
Aug 14 2007, 02:05 PM
Because it is show business,,,and NOT handicapping a guy that wins most of the time and is stinking up the show is bad showmanship.
that's why Short track racing has inverts,,,and exhaust handicap rule would just be an extension of that practice.
PS. restricting the Exh. does no harm to the engine!!
TT22KH
Aug 14 2007, 02:20 PM
If they want to put on a show than start him dead last.
If someone has a fast car, that is competiting within all of the rules, than why should he be punished for having the best car. Anyone else can do the same thing.
If a football team goes out and wins their first 10 games by 50 points each game, should we make them play with 10 players at a time for the rest of the year? No, you tell the other teams to get ready and step it up!
GIXXER
Aug 14 2007, 02:24 PM
Stinkfist is right these orange cars can get away with any the and nothing is done. Rob come down on me in hot laps and i put two tires in the dirt to keep from spinnig him out but he just kept coming down so i end up hooking his left rear quarter and he spun out. So of course i get out of my car at my trailer and here comes bart wanting to know what happen. They can sure dish it out but cant take it. I was on the outside of chad when the # 17 went around and yes it was chads car that turned him around BUT only because Rob was pushing chad trought the middle of the corner. Now the track is saying that chad was black flagged for four laps even though he tapped and went to the back. I talked to a couple of people and know one ever saw him get black flagged. If so why when the caution flew with 3 or 4 laps to go did'nt they just pull him aside and tell him? It seems to me that theyare a few people out ther that figure if i cant beat him i will reck himand thta is just a bunch of bull! I got nothing but respect for chad and what he does in that race car.
nate
Aug 14 2007, 02:40 PM
why would you want to make a car slower because he wins,,,shouldnt be the other way around. the others should make there cars faster to keep up,,why punish chad for him doing his home work,and working on his car to race to make it better..when the others just leave it on the trailer,and hook up the day to race...i like the idea of making him start in the back,,cuz i love seeing him come frome the back.he is not scared to pass cars hes proved it time and again,,,im not knocking the other drivers out there they are probably doing there best,,but it is not chads fault they can compete with him..there is favortism out there to the kerns..they can spin cars and not have to tap..you see it every week...not to worry though chad is in the middle of moving up and they wont have to worry about losing to him every week...dont the rules say something about removing extra peices from your car...what about the bull horns and the police car shouldnt that stuff be removed
team80mi
Aug 14 2007, 05:50 PM
Jason our car is orange to but Gerry dont drive that way. We came form the back to the front on the out side the heat and the feature. Maybe the other orange car likes us. Its all about car sit up.
P.S. I hope Chad can race
mod4
Aug 14 2007, 06:02 PM
Hay!! Chad I told ya it only gets worse!!
GIXXER
Aug 14 2007, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(team80mi @ Aug 15 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]94273[/snapback]
Jason our car is orange to but Gerry dont drive that way. We came form the back to the front on the out side the heat and the feature. Maybe the other orange car likes us. Its all about car sit up.
P.S. I hope Chad can race
Jerry did great job in that car the other nite. Glad to see him back out too bad its was'nt in the wagon though that car was pretty fast to. I was refering to another orange car.
team80mi
Aug 14 2007, 08:11 PM
QUOTE(GIXXER @ Aug 15 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]94281[/snapback]
Jerry did great job in that car the other nite. Glad to see him back out too bad its was'nt in the wagon though that car was pretty fast to. I was refering to another orange car.
Were does your dad work, I thank he works with my wife.
circle8track
Aug 14 2007, 09:23 PM
StinkFist, your original post is what I have been saying for years. That is also the reason I don't race at Dixie any more. I get along with the Bob and Rob Kern family but Mike Kern and the Dixie Motor Speedway shows extreme favortism about it. Rob as taken me out and spun me out several time. It has even went as far as allowing Rob to go back to his pit and change tires and add gas before being teched after a feature. I remember that one because he was barely legal after he added gas and changed tire but the week before I got DQ'ed for being too light (I have a fuel leak in my trunk and they could see the wetness). Either way, There are other tracks to race at, and until Mike Kern can run that track the way it needs to be ran I won't be back, and I wish Chad would do the same, just to prove the point to Mike. Mike can put fans int he seats, which is great, but let's see how many drivers he can keep in the pits, I think in a matter of a few years his car count will really suffer.
jerrywells
Aug 14 2007, 11:53 PM
i see mike kerns is letting himself slip back to the way he used to be, lol. what is being done to chad is a shame and the reason i refuse to race at dixie. i knew it was just a matter of time. i may be in a differnt divison then chad but it is still the same. what he does to chad is what he will do to any other driver when he feels like it. it is sad
stinkfist
Aug 15 2007, 12:03 PM
Its not so much sad as it is infuriating. This is a sham that is being perpetrated by Mike to screw a car that has been dominate, and deserves to win a championship. If he doesn't win it at least we will know the car that does is by default, not by earning it on fair grounds. Mike is skewing the competition to his favor. I will not race there when the time comes. We will encourage others to do the same. When I say we I am not speaking for Chad L.
kryptonite
Aug 15 2007, 10:04 PM
Well just got back from Dixie and they said I disregarded the black flag so that is why I was going to be suspended. I did not see them wave the flag at me just point it as I drove by for only one lap. Dixie gave me the option of sitting out a week or giving up 30 points, I gave up the points so I could race. I would rather race then sit on the sideline. So hopefully everything will work out
wildman92
Aug 15 2007, 10:32 PM
well i think it is wrong for the track staff and mike to take your points or suspend you kryptonite,
i did not see them throw the black flag at you. i have raced with you for awhile and you have
never drove me bad my hats off to you. you have become one hell of a driver in the past few years!
now as for the orange cars they need to learn what clean driving is. i have been beat on just
about every friday night ihave raced with them and nothing is ever done about there rough
driving habits. it is getting to the point that maybe mike kerns needs to back up what he says in
the drivers meeting maybe he needs to take some points away from the orange car for gaurdrailing
people in hot laps heat & feature races. but we all know that wont happen
axle
nate
Aug 15 2007, 10:49 PM
chad i hope you go bring that can out.its time to whips some whoootang...i hope you win the championship in both by 30 points.just to shove that in there face...good luck at ac on sat,ill be at owasso,,,for my kids birthday,,goodluck
pimpn8ntez06
Aug 15 2007, 10:50 PM
Don't worry Chad. Like Randy said, you have became one hell of a driver in the last 2 years. You know your doing something right when you can go to any track in Michigan with your car and race for the WIN! If ya ever need anything just give me a call. Good luck this weekend!
stinkfist
Aug 16 2007, 08:34 AM
Crap.............total freaking crap! Can't wait to see what they'll do next. Well they got a shoot out from a 100 point lead to 5 thats what they want. Just hope they don't continue to bend you! I'll bet they do.
bomber37
Aug 16 2007, 12:10 PM
i agree that is complete bull how many times have we seen those pretty orange cars beat their way to the front and get nothing done to them
greg
(see i dont hide behind a screenname)
stinkfist
Aug 16 2007, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(bomber37 @ Aug 16 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]94475[/snapback]
i agree that is complete bull how many times have we seen those pretty orange cars beat their way to the front and get nothing done to them
greg
(see i dont hide behind a screenname)
Im not sure if your reffering to me or not, but most people on this site know my name is Chad Decker. I dont either! If Mike wants to treat me the same way he'll have to buy another track cuz I wont race at his.
bomber37
Aug 16 2007, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(stinkfist @ Aug 16 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]94476[/snapback]
Im not sure if your reffering to me or not, but most people on this site know my name is Chad Decker. I dont either! If Mike wants to treat me the same way he'll have to buy another track cuz I wont race at his.
no i wasnt referring to you its one of those things i put on there cause of a couple of weeks ago when someone came on and started blasting people it just annoyed me that they were willing to come on here but not brave enough to write their names so from now on when i sign my name i put that down there as a slam to those gutless people
MaddMike
Aug 16 2007, 09:22 PM
It wasn't too long ago that almost the ENTIRE factory stock division boycotted DMS with picket signs and the whole deal. I think it was in '99 or 2000.
It started with the same kind of crap.
With all the good that I've been reading about that track lately, I'm really bummed that this is going on.
Good luck to all who are involved.
Mike
meetuinthepits07
Aug 17 2007, 03:37 AM
That is sad the day a driver wins 13 features and completes all but the two black flagged races and not win the championship. Maybe it is time to picket!!!!!!!
stinkfist
Aug 17 2007, 06:57 AM
And don't forget every single fast time all year. Starting consistently behind the inversion and putting on a good show.
flyinryan66
Aug 17 2007, 03:49 PM
let it go, all Mike did was add fuel to Chads fire to win the title. It is very sad dont get me wrong but let it go, it will be his last year in the wicked ass sled anyway, he will win it and move up. best of luck to everyone tonight and the rest of the weekend, but it was BS. Stinkfist I agree with you all the way brother.
pimpn8ntez06
Aug 17 2007, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(stinkfist @ Aug 17 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]94552[/snapback]
And don't forget every single fast time all year. Starting consistently behind the inversion and putting on a good show.
Check the fast time part. lol. All but one now. Chad is an awesome driver who deserves to win races and championships for all the effort he puts into his car. Good luck Chad and Good job Lonnie tonight gettin fast time.
kryptonite
Aug 18 2007, 12:17 AM
racnpartsales
Aug 18 2007, 05:52 AM
Being very vocal when you think you have been wronged and trying to correct it there is nothing wrong with.
My personal opinion (and it does not matter because I dont really know anyone involved) is that you always need to be careful what you do or say in a public forum.
Many of you guys probably have hopes and dreams of moving on to bigger and better stuff for a driving career.
Do you really believe that promtoting a boycott or dragging this out where now hundreds of people are getting to read sensationalized stuff is the best solution for your friends involved in this?
You guys are great guys in the fact that you are passionate about your sport, there is nothing wrong with that.
Please keep 2 things in mind with all of this.
1. Nobody ever erected a statue to a critic.
2. Any bridge you burn today can lead to less oppertunity in the future. None of you know who you might end up driving for in the future- or what connection they may have to who in the sport. None of us knows who we might be or want to be employed by for a job in the future. Some racing related jobs are kinda unique opportunities. If you are viewed as someone who shouts their problems from the rooftops instead of discussion of all options like gentleman then you may get looked over for a good opportunity in favor of someone who can remain calm in the face of adversity. If you have no plans of going anywhere in the future and dont care what happens to your friends then the current path really has no effect on anything other than your reputations. You as individuals have the responsibility there. Tony Stewart can get away with saying what he chooses at all times because he has already a career established and contracts. He has enough resources to fall back on in the event his words have more weight than he intended on. Not all of us have Tony Stewarts bank roll or Joe Gibbs thinking we can drive.
You never ever can tell who is reading what. Always remember that. There are ways you can deal with situations that are effective and ways that are inflamatory for the future. Finding common ground with somone you disagree with is always the very first step in getting what you want out of any situation.
Good luck to all of you in finding a solution to the issues that you care about. Im not bashing any of you here at all. Im just saying it does not look good overall from the outside looking in. Venting a friends problems can sometimes get more legs than you really intended. Have a nice day. Jeff
flyinryan66
Aug 18 2007, 10:53 AM
Chad, congrats on the feature last night, keep chargin Bud!!!!
Bone
Aug 19 2007, 02:10 PM
ive been hearing a fair amount of good stuff about dixie lately but......
some things never do change i guess, when a dirver is blatently favored by a track. the dirvers will catch on, the drivers police there own. pretty soon it gets tough for said driver to pass a car or even finish a race. then it usually gets blamed on the guy in 2nd or 1st depending on how hard the fav gets punted and how often.
call me dirty call me what ya want, im a figure8 driver thru and thru, put em in the wall and follow em in. regardless of what the track does, drivers will handle it eventually
havnt been to dixie since 02. have no intions of going back for exactly the reasons this thread is about
RACERXBLINGBLING
Aug 19 2007, 02:22 PM
cHAD HAD A CHOICE THIS WONT HOLD HIM FROM THE CHAMPIONSHIP , HE IS ONE OF THE BEST LED SLED DRIVERS , I HAVE SEEN IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE HE STARTS HE ALWAYS ENDS UP TO THE FRONT, AS FAR AS OPPS ALL CAPS ,Bob and Rob both are very nice guys and will help anyone of you guys out , I personaly know Bob Kerns is a rookie and he had no prior experience so to be running up front and havin people bash him i say kudos to him, and I guess a couple post ago when your head swells like has been happening latley with car counts and all to regress back to your old habits was just a matter of time like i told joe dewitt , dixie had there bad time , mike went out and showed respect to drivers , he learned his lesson as i wish joe dewitt did , i tried several times talkin calmly and he has no political justice so i guess this problem is all tracks different divisions , but pissin off chad could hurt the fan base in the stands i see 20 people a week there for chad he rocks ,so maybe mike will learn when hes on top of the game to not forget where he came from cuz auto city is 5 mi south and if joe was smart he would now follow his own tech and rule book and be fair and appreciate the busineess that serves him , they need fans , drivers and loyal supporters to survie you kill one of those you might as well hang it up !!!!! so good lucj everyone i had been waitin to vent its about time!!!!!!!!
stinkfist
Aug 20 2007, 07:07 AM
QUOTE(racnpartsales @ Aug 18 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]94646[/snapback]
Being very vocal when you think you have been wronged and trying to correct it there is nothing wrong with.
My personal opinion (and it does not matter because I dont really know anyone involved) is that you always need to be careful what you do or say in a public forum.
Many of you guys probably have hopes and dreams of moving on to bigger and better stuff for a driving career.
Do you really believe that promtoting a boycott or dragging this out where now hundreds of people are getting to read sensationalized stuff is the best solution for your friends involved in this?
You guys are great guys in the fact that you are passionate about your sport, there is nothing wrong with that.
Please keep 2 things in mind with all of this.
1. Nobody ever erected a statue to a critic.
2. Any bridge you burn today can lead to less oppertunity in the future. None of you know who you might end up driving for in the future- or what connection they may have to who in the sport. None of us knows who we might be or want to be employed by for a job in the future. Some racing related jobs are kinda unique opportunities. If you are viewed as someone who shouts their problems from the rooftops instead of discussion of all options like gentleman then you may get looked over for a good opportunity in favor of someone who can remain calm in the face of adversity. If you have no plans of going anywhere in the future and dont care what happens to your friends then the current path really has no effect on anything other than your reputations. You as individuals have the responsibility there. Tony Stewart can get away with saying what he chooses at all times because he has already a career established and contracts. He has enough resources to fall back on in the event his words have more weight than he intended on. Not all of us have Tony Stewarts bank roll or Joe Gibbs thinking we can drive.
You never ever can tell who is reading what. Always remember that. There are ways you can deal with situations that are effective and ways that are inflamatory for the future. Finding common ground with somone you disagree with is always the very first step in getting what you want out of any situation.
Good luck to all of you in finding a solution to the issues that you care about. Im not bashing any of you here at all. Im just saying it does not look good overall from the outside looking in. Venting a friends problems can sometimes get more legs than you really intended. Have a nice day. Jeff
You didn't see Chad on here (when he damn well had a right to be!). I am a freind of Chads, and I also did not call for a boycott. I simply will not give a track my money that treats people the way they have. They clearly have an adgenda, and thats all i need to say. Chad has won two track champoinships, and as Kim said brings 20 fans to the track each week......well 19 now, and does not deserve what has happend to him. Hey he won this week and probably is enrout to another championship. Its just that he was wronged and I dont represent him when I say that. In fact many times when I post Chad give me chit about it. So I have my opinions and will continue to. Thanx
Oh by the way Chad was at the track to talk to Mike twice and the afore mentioned is the result of your so called common ground! Some people just have a my way or the highway mentality.
OLDNUMBER01
Aug 25 2007, 10:37 AM
My personal opinion (and it does not matter because I dont really know anyone involved) is that you always need to be careful what you do or say in a public forum.
Many of you guys probably have hopes and dreams of moving on to bigger and better stuff for a driving career.
Do you really believe that promtoting a boycott or dragging this out where now hundreds of people are getting to read sensationalized stuff is the best solution for your friends involved in this?Jeff your right, your opinion doesnt matter. this is america remember. thats why there is a web site to voice our issues. The only people you need to becareful talking about is the goverment. There isnt much opertunity here in michigan so i doubt any cares who reads this.
The only way to get things changed is to voice it..
Joe
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