Is anyone interested in taking on an R/C racing league this winter? I started the topic in the General Forum, but figured I should mention it to our "gamerz" forum.

http://www.mstrc.com/index.php?showtopic=1...amp;#entry97008

The Idea:
Racing box stock Losi Mini Sliders on an oval track (probably the existing track in Bay City, but other venues are possible). If all goes well, we'll keep points, and perhaps we'll even get someone to sponsor the series with a trophy for the champ or even the top 3. Customizing the cars to look like real local racers or with your own personal paint scheme will be encouraged. Cars with the same "factory" paint scheme, will have to be altered somehow (ductape numbers). Racing season will probably be November to March, 1 night per week, or every other week depending on the participants.

The car:
Losi Mini Slider
1/18th scale sprint car
retail ~$180 RTR
http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.a...ProdID=LOSB0205

The participants:
MSTRC members, friends of MSTRC members, MSTRC lurkers, people that hate the MSTRC, or anyone that wants to race one.


If we can get 10+ solid people that want to do this and are willing to buy cars, I will contact some tracks in the Flint/Saginaw/Detroit area and try to get this off the ground. If you don't want to pay $180 to do this, plus some nightly fees to the track (if needed) then don't say you want to do it.

Don't forget to check and make sure you can change the crystals in the radios

Also does "box stock" mean no gear or spring/shock changes

the only question i have is are we gonna use the sprint car or dirt late model sliders? (they have both)

If I understand correctly, these don't have crystals, they are a 2.1gHz receiver, like a cordless phone. It syncs itself and can be reprogrammed.

I prefer sprints, but I guess if latemodels get more attention that would be fine. The latemodel conversion is more money, so I don't really want to do that. What do you guys think?

man, if you guys were closer to the Jackson/Lansing area, that would be great. Would probably have 2, maybe even 3 cars there racing every week.

I'd say keep em as sprint cars and if someone wants to try out a late model conversion, let em, and see how well they handle. Out of the box the sprint handles very well from what I hear, but the late model might need a little help. Have a friend on here (71Super) that owns the Jackson R/C track in Jackson, MI and he was thinking if we could get a dirt oval ready by the end of the racing season he might put on a Mini-Slider sprint car race, totally stock.

What classes already run there?

Mike

I wouldnt mind going to Jackson for this, if it were 1 night a week. Jackson is probably closer to me than Bay City is actually. Keep us informed on how that's going.

I haven't been to the track in about 2 months, maybe even longer. Last time we were there we had weed killer out and trimmers knocking down all the tall stuff. Track was an off road course around 2 years ago, actually had a MARS race there that went really well. Unfortunately since then interest had slowed and Scott (71Super) had never really done anything with the track. We had converted it over to an oval a little bit this season but it needed a little more work before it could be totally raced on.

As far as classes Mike, there is nothing running on it right now. Thats why Scott wanted a Mini Slider event for the end of the season, see if we could generate a little interest in hopes that we could get it going full time next season.

Oh, It's outdoors? Bummer. That might be a little more difficult for a winter league. I hate to focus on this type of thing during the summer. I would still consider supporting a minislider race, if it happens, let me know.

You’ve got my interest peeked. I did a little indoor off road racing with 1/10 stadium truck when I was in collage, fun times.

After doing a little looking and seeing some video clips (especially the polished floor races) I got to thinking. Why couldn’t this be done in a gym? It looks like there are plenty of different options for tack barriers that are cheap and portable. Then it could be mobile and maybe get more interest if you could mix short and long trips in for people.

Basically what I am saying is I am interested, but live in the wrong part of the state (between Lansing and Grad Rapids). Although if you do get one going over there I am still interested enough to get one and make a trip once a month to race.

Also if enough people over this way are interested maybe we can get an East West thing going with a couple challenge dates at each location.

That'd be cool. I just don't know if there's enough interest yet. The gym floor idea isnt a bad one, but it might be a little too slippery. I know I usd to run a 1/10th truck in an airport hanger on my lunch hour and it was soo slick you could hardly keep it going straight.

East/West shootout, now we are talking. Don't know where my loyalty would fall into place seeing as how I'm in the Southern most county in Michigan.

But yea, a normal gym floor I'd say would be too slippery. Most of the vids you see are the designers or prototype Losi drivers, AKA some of the best in the business driving the Sliders. All you would need to do is find some older ozite carpet and you should be set. I've got a trailer full of ozite in my backyard back from the old Jackson Community College days, but I highly doubt its in any good condition since the last time we used it about three to four years ago.

My biggest question right now is the availability of the Mini Sliders. I know many people who were ordering them were having to get back orders on their purchases. Not sure if Losi made an abundant amount of them to be certain.

The right tires would hook up in a gym just like basketball shoes do, but I think you'd get kicked out once the "groove" starts to wear in.






I still say get a 2wd electric truck and use your engineering brain on it. Mainly because it's an established class and there's always someplace to race. Also, it's not as serious as a lot of the spec stuff. I don't know what type motor that RX-280 is that's in the slider, but it likely isn't brushless, so you have to work on it constanly. We all run a 19turn equivalent brushless motor system, so you never have to worry about anything except handling.

I'm pretty sure my T2 will work on dirt, but it will never work for offroad again...lol.

I'll put a sprint body on mine if you wanna get one.

Mike

I've got a few 2wd electric trucks, so I'm all for a truck series as well if we want to get one started. I've got 2 Losi XXX-T's (one is a MF1, the other is an original XXX-T) and a RC10T3-RTR. One of the Losi's is my indoor truck while the other is my outdoor/screw around truck while the T3 is collecting dust.

As far as the RX-280 motor, take a look at this picture and you tell me Mike, you think its brushless or not?



Really, a brushless motor isn't important to me. The last time I ran indoors in Lansing I was using a 3 year old P2K motor that had old brushes in it and was whooping some of the other stock truck guys who were trying out the brushless stuff. They got sick of me winning and all the brushless guys went up to mod truck a couple weeks later.

Can't see the pic of the motor you said to look at. Some content is blocked here at work, so is it brushless or not?

The thing with brushless motors if for everyone to have the proper one, the novak 5800 runs perfectly with 19 turn brush motors.

We really got sick of having to turn the com and put new brushes in once a week to stay fast. Brushless systems are the same cost as a good motor and speed control and totally eliminates the need for all the equipment needed to keep the brush-type motors fast. Com lathes, motor dynos, all that extra crap...not to mention buying a new com all the time.

For us, it turned nightly maintenance into annual maintenance...and cut cost.

Mike

No Mike, its not brushless. You can see some pics of the entire Slider chassis and components by clicking the link that HRT posted in the first post (not sure if you can access those other pics as well since the motor pic was from the same section).

More than likely if I had been racing my 2wd truck the past 2 years more than likely I would have upgraded to brushless stuff by now, but until then my Cyclone C2 (which I LOVE) speedo and my 5 year old gold case P2K motor will be sufficient.

I probably have enough junk paying around to put a 1/10th truck together like yours. I might still do it if you guys come up with a place to race this winter.

I figured the slider deal would be good for someone just getting in, since it's basically only $180 and someone doesnt need a radio and all that jazz to get started. Then there's hardly anything that you can change. There's a bag of 3 pinions, and then just turning the comm and putting new brushes in (if you choose). I dunno, it's a good point, and you're right about it being better for the people that already have cars. If more people have interest in doing that then I'd be for it. I still like the amount of work that will go into an RTR racer... NONE.

Any other Opinions?

Did someone say that there is a track in Mt. Pleasant?? If so can I get a name or where its located??

I would be interested.........how much do you guys have into the 1/10th stuff you are talking about. Do you think there might be any used ones floating around for sale?

Is it Mountain Town Hobbies........do they have a track and everything??

I just searched it online, guess I will have to stop by there tomorrow and check it out!

Kyle,

If your tlaking about a oval track, they run one in Mt. Pleasant 1 time a month.
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=139046

This is the thread to hobbytalk talking about Mt. Pleasant. Make sure you go to the last page for updated info. They do run trucks buggies... I only race oval pan cars. Theya re also practicing wed night in Bay city at the Xtreme Cellar. And they are racing Saturday the 22nd. I Cant make it cuase were racing (real car). If you guys wanna come check out b.c. let me know and I will tell ya when were practicing and racing. I do have an extra car with the dodge charger nascar body if your interested in trying it. I will let anyone interested in getting into this type of racing tey my spare car. we are always looking for new people.

P.S.
Mike, the 5800 brushless will kill the 19 turn brushed motors in oval track pan cars anyway. We run the 4300 and the 13.5 novak brushless and the 19 turn is somewhere in between them, probably closer to the 13.5

Ray

Would the sprint car that Gavin is talking about fit in with any class that they already run?

no, but all it takes is 4 guys and you can run the class. Or even if you guys had 4 cars and just want to run together, yuo can run a class. It is like real racing, one class goes and then the other class. right now we have about 3-4 different classes in bay city and about 8 different classes at the mt. pleasant races. Mt. Pleasant may already have a class you would fit in with that car.

Ray

Kyle- The old Associated T2 is actually better than the new ones for carpet because the newer ones have a ton of caster that stabilizes them for offroad. Parts availability may have changed, however, I havn't been into it really for about 2 years.

Look on Ebay- People who sell their whole operation end up selling pretty cheap. You could get everything you need for around $300 I'd bet.

Ray- I'm sure you are correct with the 5800 in a pan car, I think the torque to horsepower ratio must be in favor of the pan cars. In the heavier trucks, we found that they ran quite evenly though.

Mike

I have a XXXT truck (matt francis edition) and a TON of equipment to go with it for $450.00 You will never have to purchase new parts with all the stuff you will get with my truck and complete package. I was sponsored at one time and have way to much to sell separately. so if you are interested in a package that has it all, then call me.

Jerry

(734) 337-2536

i got a electric rustler and would be willing to convert it to oval

What classes are you guys running?

Iam interested out of the box no modifications to motor or chassis

late model body would be my choice its only bout 20-30 dollars more

Doesn't look like we've got enough interest for this one. Too bad, i think it could have been fun.

We could get a bunch of those little radio control submarines and race them?

How big is your aquarium?

65gal. 4ft long and 2 ft high. room for at least 4 lanes (by height) without removing any plants.

Then there's the Pond...Water is crystal clear right now.

Mike

Hey guys, I'm a new member and I signed up to look for something specifically like this. I used to run a spec class (NASCAR style) on carpet a few years back and I'm interested in getting back into racing. I'd prefer the sprint style open wheel but you're pretty much at the mercy of what ever type of club is around at the time. If you guys are still interested in doing this, keep me in mind. Thanks, Jason

Hey guys, if anyone is interested in running a track.... i have a opportunity for someone.

The track in Jackson has some killer clay....kinda slick when dry but packs rock hard. We had 255 entries for our MARS race a few years back and hardly had to do any work to it all day. It's on property that has liability insurance covering any events that are held there. You do need to give 20% of the entry fees to the property owner Steve each time you have a race.

I don't have time for R/C anymore it seems...probably help if we could get people to come out to a track, as much as i have tried....posting on DO dot com and several other sites(hobbytalk) only to get just talkers...it's not worth it. The big car stuff is going too well to keep putting in the effort or money in R/C.

Now if someone around here would open an indoor dirt oval during the winter i would be game for just racing there.

Old AMB scoring system w/pc for sale....along with the carpet, cones and boards in the trailer behind DigitalV's house.....$800 takes it all....even the trailer.

Let me know.

-Scott

The trailer makes the overall price decrease.

Don't know how good that carpet is though, haven't opened the door to the trailer in about three years, can just imagine what types of rodents have made their way in to it.

I don't know... with the way scrap prices are the price may be going up....haha.

Well that is true, it could be in rough shape, however, if someone is interested, we will go check it out before making any transactions.

check these cars out...late models.....$500.00 plus shipping

www.straightcircles.com/mini


mikes mini latemodels