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ljprevo
How are they going to enforce this at a Nascar race?

http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/...e.ap/index.html

New state law to prohibit smoking in Bristol stands

BRISTOL, Tenn. -- Bristol Motor Speedway officials are warning NASCAR fans that there will be no smoking in the stands this year.

A new state law that took effect in October prohibits smoking in most public facilities, including sports arenas.

Speedway spokesman Kevin Triplett says he's received a lot of complaints about the change, but also some calls from people happy about the ban.

The restrictions will apply to all seating areas, terraces and restrooms but not the concourses.

Smokers will be asked to extinguish cigarettes and cigars when spotted.
mod911
The law is the law, arrest them and haul them away. Confiscate their car and cash. That will teach em you can't smoke on this planet anymore.
If it were not for fat people and smokers my health insurance would be cheaper.
Put em in the Shiawassee County jail and they will quit smoking vcause that is a non smoke facility.
MaddMike
It's ok to gather en masse to breath Carbon Monoxide fumes from 43 cars running in a bowl... But no smoking...
fed-up
QUOTE (MaddMike @ Feb 4 2008, 05:53 PM) *
It's ok to gather en masse to breath Carbon Monoxide fumes from 43 cars running in a bowl... But no smoking...


No doubt, it's a family sport that may not be for all families.
friendlyfanofAC
Ok, this is coming from a smoking/BBW and I am not talking about my looks being smoking. I am a smoker who loves to watch the races. I sit in the front row of the bleechers, my smoke is nothing compaired to some of the smells off of the track. Now I don't go to NASCAR races, but as far as the short tracks that I have been to, burning rubber from the tires, and burning oil from some of the cars is far worse than any cigarette or cigar I have ever smoked or been around. And concidering that I am 46ys old and came from a smoking family,both parents smoked, dad his cigars and pipes, mom cigs, now both have quit, and are both 75. But me I will quit when I am good and ready and don't like having everyone tell me where I can smoke esspecially when it is an outdoor venue. If you have to have a non smoking area, do it like they do alcholol, make a non smoking/ non drinking section so all the people who don't want to be around us can all be toghether. This is my solution for all out door venues.
stribeckracing
QUOTE (friendlyfanofAC @ Feb 5 2008, 01:03 AM) *
Ok, this is coming from a smoking/BBW and I am not talking about my looks being smoking. I am a smoker who loves to watch the races. I sit in the front row of the bleechers, my smoke is nothing compaired to some of the smells off of the track. Now I don't go to NASCAR races, but as far as the short tracks that I have been to, burning rubber from the tires, and burning oil from some of the cars is far worse than any cigarette or cigar I have ever smoked or been around. And concidering that I am 46ys old and came from a smoking family,both parents smoked, dad his cigars and pipes, mom cigs, now both have quit, and are both 75. But me I will quit when I am good and ready and don't like having everyone tell me where I can smoke esspecially when it is an outdoor venue. If you have to have a non smoking area, do it like they do alcholol, make a non smoking/ non drinking section so all the people who don't want to be around us can all be toghether. This is my solution for all out door venues.


I agree with you smoking BBW (catchy name rolleyes.gif ) I don't smoke, but I used to. The 2nd hand smoke "fear" has been rediculously blown out of proportion. I heard on the news a PhD was saying that there is absolutely no minimum safe threshold for 2nd hand smoke. He is either too dumb to have his credentials and should have them stripped immediately or he is outright lying and needs his credentials removed. NO min. threshold means you die with any level of exposure, like AIDS. Banning smoking in these types of venues is essentially banning the "smell" of a cigarette. There is no health reason in an open air environment. If we are now banning smells, there are some purfumes that should be on the chopping block. I don't like the smell of curry either. Oh, and Detroit really stinks for that matter. Maybe we should ban Detroit.

A large part of the reason that there isn't much racial or religious violence in this country compared to others is that most of us generally don't give a crap what other people are doing as long as it doesn't aggravate us too much. If we are going down the path of being picky on others habits that don't affect us (sitting in an open air venue and catching an occassional smell of smoke is not affecting you) things will start to change for the worse. Bet on it.
ljprevo
I don't smoke either, but it is a right that has been taken away if I wanted to.

They make these bans in the name of "Public heath" that we would buy it more.

However the ban should be more a nuiscense ban. However there should be measures that allow for the smoker.

A smoking section sounds fine.

I don't like smoke blown in my face, but it is not fair for me to tell someone NOT to do something.
GrannySharon
I don't think they will have too much trouble enforcing it for the majority of the smokers. Most smokers have gotten used to not being able to smoke in crowds or having to go to restricted areas but there will still be a few in the stands that will ignore the ban and do it anyway.

They definitely have gotten out of hand with the "second-hand smoke" stuff. They blame everything on that now and of course there are no other pollutants in our air to contribute to health issues, it is all caused by second-hand smoke from smokers. They know this since they have done numerous studies where the test subjects were in totally controlled environments from their first breath of life and was only exposed to either no pollutants or was only exposed to second-hand smoke so they could compare the studies. Thousands of parents handed their newborns over for these controlled environment studies on "second-hand smoke" just so the medical associations and our government could blame everything on it. NOT!
I think that is what gets me most about the whole thing is how they keep blaming so much on it but there really is not the proof they say, not with so many other pollutants in our air that effect a lot of people that never smoked and never spent time around smokers. How did they get lung cancer, asthsma, emphazma, throat cancer?

Now the drunks in the stands at sporting events........there is something they really could consider banning! And then they all leave and pile into vechiles to hit the roads, there is a health hazard!
And we won't even talk about how rude, obnoxious, and extremely foul-mouthed SOME can get, spilling beer on you, etc. angryfire.gif
53speeder
QUOTE (stribeckracing @ Feb 5 2008, 11:28 PM) *
I agree with you smoking BBW (catchy name rolleyes.gif ) I don't smoke, but I used to. The 2nd hand smoke "fear" has been rediculously blown out of proportion. I heard on the news a PhD was saying that there is absolutely no minimum safe threshold for 2nd hand smoke. He is either too dumb to have his credentials and should have them stripped immediately or he is outright lying and needs his credentials removed. NO min. threshold means you die with any level of exposure, like AIDS. Banning smoking in these types of venues is essentially banning the "smell" of a cigarette. There is no health reason in an open air environment. If we are now banning smells, there are some purfumes that should be on the chopping block. I don't like the smell of curry either. Oh, and Detroit really stinks for that matter. Maybe we should ban Detroit.

A large part of the reason that there isn't much racial or religious violence in this country compared to others is that most of us generally don't give a crap what other people are doing as long as it doesn't aggravate us too much. If we are going down the path of being picky on others habits that don't affect us (sitting in an open air venue and catching an occassional smell of smoke is not affecting you) things will start to change for the worse. Bet on it.


WE are closer than than most think. [change for the worse]
chris
I smoke, but try and be a courteous smoker. I am extra cautious around non smokers and try not to be a PITA with my smoke. I also field strip each cigarette when outdoors and put the butt in my pocket rather then tossing them onto the ground.

But get real - second hand smoke dangerous ? The crap you breathe outside in cities is far worse then any cigarette smoke you will ever have breathed. How about that smoke belching bus ? What about all the semis sitting in trucks stops with their engines idling all night. What about the paints you use at home to paint inside your home in an enclosed area ?

If your worried about second hand smoke and think it should be outlawed because it kills people, then hell why stop there. Lets outlaw booze too. Alcohol creates a HUGE financial drain on our society. When I was working I never called in sick with a hang over from smoking. I also never killed anyone in a car wreck from drinking. I smoked but never got plastered and beat my wife and my smoking never started any bar fights. You wont ever find me living as a street person because I am a hopeless alcoholic. So lets get rid of booze. Lets make it a law that all drinking has to be confined to your home or property where you cannot endanger others.

I can easily see non smoking laws in enclosed areas such as Planes, buses, taxis, etc. But in an open environment like a race track ?

And while we are at it, lets stop any cell phone use in public places. I hate eating a nice dinner while some jackass seated near me carries on a conversation on their cell phone.

And my last bitch, womens perfume. It shouldn't be allowed in enclosed areas. Does anyone have any idea as to just how sick cheap perfume can make a chemo patient when they have to smell that crap ? I was on a flight from Lansing back to Bristol and endured an hour of sitting next to some old woman that had the God awfullest smelling cheap perfume I have ever smelled and I got sick physically sick from the stench.

This country is filled with way to many bleeding heart liberals and to many politicians out to make a mark on society.

Chris
ljprevo
Agree with you 110% Chris.
KBM17g
I agree too with ya Chris!!!
schinde
Whatever happened to you and I running for Pres and Vice Pres Chris,

I still think we'd get it done right.

have a good day,

schinde
PFDs-BiggestFan
yeahup .. what Chris said ...
stribeckracing
QUOTE (schinde @ Feb 11 2008, 03:09 PM) *
Whatever happened to you and I running for Pres and Vice Pres Chris,

I still think we'd get it done right.

have a good day,

schinde


You fellas would be a shoe-in right now! I'm telling you, this is like choosing between vomit and diarrhea...although, if it comes right down to it, you CAN throw up in a garbage can...
GrannySharon

It is not too late and if the two of you throw your hats into the ring.....you have my vote!!!!!

And if you can't decide who is to be which, then what the heck, change it up a bit. Take turns, switch it around, kinda like joint custody, part of the time one of you is the Pres and then part is the other one. Could be very interesting!


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chris
QUOTE (GrannySharon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:45 AM) *
It is not too late and if the two of you throw your hats into the ring.....you have my vote!!!!!

And if you can't decide who is to be which, then what the heck, change it up a bit. Take turns, switch it around, kinda like joint custody, part of the time one of you is the Pres and then part is the other one. Could be very interesting!


rofl3.gif rofl3.gif


I can run the country during the race season while Matt is busy driving in circles. He can run the country when its to damn cold to be in DC and I am in Aruba laying on the beach.

Of course we will have our daily phone briefings and cabinet meetings at the local Hooters.

These bleeding heart liberals better hold on to their butt's. The Dawg and Big Daddy are coming..............icon_smile.gif

Chris
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