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mrvids
You can see Kyle was turning his wheels right into the 88 at Richmond, and never tried to turn left to get off him even after making contact. Kyle gets this weeks idiot of the week award.
schinde
Yes, he did turn to the right, clearly.

Yes, he was going for the lead, clearly.

Yes, he had Jr. in trouble, clearly.

But in no way did he have to do what he ended up doing, instead of trying to recover his car by backing out ever so slightly and letting his car recover under Jr., he decided to press the issue, and by doing so, ended up putting Jr. into the wall.

I did not see in all of the replays, where Jr. wavered in his line, nor was in a position where he should have backed out ever so slightly. That should have been Kyle's move.

I think Kyle should actually get "MaleSexualMemberWood" of the Week Award.

You may disagree if you wish.

have a good day,

schinde
racerLuc
He did the same thing to Johnny Benson this year too.
fastbruce88
But When Steven taps him in the ASS in The Nationwide race on the last lap he goes off????????? But wrecking Jr was a racing thing?????????? He needs his ASS kicked, the more he races the more I think he is the biggest Moron I have ever seen, its time the other drivers start racing him like he races them, I thought Jr. was a little to diplomatic he should have unloaded on KB, when your car starts to get out of shape that thing under your right foot will fix it, just LET OFF
mellmotors
Yeah he's a spoiled little punk who needs to get an attitude adjustment. What I want to know is why the media covers his backside so hard? You know if Tony or Harvick had been involved in as much "contact" as Banzi Busch they'd of parked them by now let alone his mouthy comments. Even Dale Sr. didn't hit people all the time and he did more then his fair share of bump and runs or ko's but this is out of control. While I'm on a role if you watch the Nationwide race when the incident with S Wallace took place on the live shot Busch got loose up off the corner and Steven got a run...I had first thought Steven got a run and hit him probably should have backed off but watching the live shot not the replay Busch got loose to start it! If he wouldn't have gotten loose Wallace could not have caught him to bump him! Then they said last night that Wallace ran into him after the race? Maybe I need to look at it again but I thought that Busch jammed on the brakes and drove down into Wallace and another car spun the 99 maybe? Then in his interview Kyle muttered something about I don't care how many cars I gotta wreck......among other things. It was basically his old team and a way to screw both Hendrick, and the replace driver and better MAN Dale jr. I know there will be Busch supporters attacking me now but I don't see any reason to like this guy. If I was a sponsor I'd be out of there long before now. I mean come on even you Busch backers have to admit Tony, Harvick, or even Kurt Busch would have been called to the trailer and or parked, fined, suspened, or on probation by now. Why can he do it? Is it because ratings are down thanks to NASCAR's wave of the future decisons to the sport that had worked fine for 50+ years? So having him stir people up every time he gets in a car is the only thing keeping the big $'s coming in? If NASCAR would remove their lips from Toyota's backside long enough maybe they could ask them for some $...or maybe they already took some. Then Kyle even smarted off about Rusty what did he do? He didn't even make a comment on the air what's the deal? He needs to be taught some respect, patience, and grow up and the best way to do it is to keep him out of a racecar. They thought they need to with Harvick and it seemed to work. If he'd get the chip off his shoulder and act like an adult he might not be so bad and he's a great talent but he's going about it wrong. I know everybody else disagrees with me but that's my take.
mellmotors
QUOTE (fastbruce88 @ May 4 2008, 08:58 AM) *
But When Steven taps him in the ASS in The Nationwide race on the last lap he goes off????????? But wrecking Jr was a racing thing?????????? He needs his ASS kicked, the more he races the more I think he is the biggest Moron I have ever seen, its time the other drivers start racing him like he races them, I thought Jr. was a little to diplomatic he should have unloaded on KB, when your car starts to get out of shape that thing under your right foot will fix it, just LET OFF


Exactly!
PFD
It's pretty easy to say it was a racing thing when you didn't hit the wall and still finish second. Gibbs needs to reel this boy in tell him to a handle on himself. He's always in the middle of these stupid "racing deals". Kind of seems odd doesn't it.

It looked better to me to watch Jr. work his way to the front than it did watching that little ^%$# finish second. Props to Clint Boyer! He made a good thing out of a bad thing.

Maybe Kyle just wants to one step closer to being like his brother. In the next few weeks I'm sure someone will sock him the mouth. Hey Jimmy Spencer how about you come out of retirement for this one.
KBM17g
QUOTE (fastbruce88 @ May 4 2008, 08:58 AM) *
But When Steven taps him in the ASS in The Nationwide race on the last lap he goes off????????? But wrecking Jr was a racing thing?????????? He needs his ASS kicked, the more he races the more I think he is the biggest Moron I have ever seen, its time the other drivers start racing him like he races them, I thought Jr. was a little to diplomatic he should have unloaded on KB, when your car starts to get out of shape that thing under your right foot will fix it, just LET OFF



It's ok if he hits you or knocks you out of the way but noone else is allowed to "race" or have any "racing incidents" around him without crying. I think with winning in these 3 divisions, along with you checkered flags, NASCAR hands you a liscense to whine! I'm sure this chapter is not over with Steven or Kyle in the Nationwide series and I bet next week at Darlington in the Cup series JR and Rowdy will be called to the big "yeller trailer"!


Geez, and I said I wasn't gonna watch this junk this season!

Kudo's to Jeff Gordon for his run from dead last to 9th and staying out of trouble all night!
MaddMike
The guys in the booth were saying that Kyle got loose and hit Dale as he was trying to save it....

Every single replay showed me the same thing though... First he turned right to hit the 88 and then he got loose as he cranked it back left to get off of him.

If I ran into him on the street, I'd prolly have to slap him a couple of times. Not for what he did to Dale...Dale can take care of himself....But just because he needs it real bad.

Bring back Jimmy Spencer. Maybe he can drive the #5 car next year!

And as I'm thinking...Don't F1 cars have black boxes that record driver input along with all the other data? Maybe in the future, we can view driver intentions by what they do with the steering wheel at times like this. That would be cool.

Mike
team21
Are we all surpised that a Busch caused a crash ? Like I always say when you have any Busch in the front at the end they will spin someone and thats a fact just look and watch . I was in a Sports bar last nite and when the yellow came out with Jr. in the front and Busch behind him , I stood up and asked anyone to bet me that Busch was gonna crash Jr. and he did so like he always has and always will..........He is a good driver but no need to be stupid like always.
MaddMike
No surprise at all... But when you're watching it live... You're thinking that you know it's gonna happen but at the same time your're thinking "he can't be THAT stupid"...then he wrecks him and your still thinking "omg I can't believe he's THAT stupid".

But yeah... we pretty much knew there was gonna be a wreck.

Mike
Verwayne
I am not a Junior fan but I respect the man. I was happy to see him control his initial thoughts and give a decent comment to the pit reporter. A lot of guys wouldn't be able to do that and he gained respect with a calm (but disappointed) demeanor. I have never ever liked either of the Busch brothers and what appeared to be a purposeful incident did nothing to change my thoughts. If it had been an isolated thing, I'd buy it but how many cars has he wrecked in 2008?

On the other hand, the Pistons kicked some serious Orlando Magic butt last night too! The "kids" did an excellent job in the late third quarter and the most of the fourth quarter. Detroit is 'seasoning' their bench under pressure and they are responding. It was funny to watch the vets sit on the bench laugh and point at the young players as they flexed their muscles. That must be a fun team of which to be a member.
needforlatemodelspeed
The media covers him because he is doing so well in all 3 series. I'd like to see him do something like that to Robbie Gordon, Montoya, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, one of the so called "Bad Boys" of the sport.
gonzo
Im a race fan of severaj drivers, even Kyle BUT, that was way uncalled for. I saw several other driver passing in the final laps, all giving room and racing hard. Kyle got passed clean by all including Jr. All Dale wanted to do was race for the win even if it meant a little rubbin. Totally uncool . angry.gif wtf.gif nunu.gif
KCR87
I love being a Kyle Busch fan biggrin.gif
I mean, in all reality, he gives me a reason to smile.
Have a good week Jr. Nation icon_smile.gif
gonzo
QUOTE (kelcar14 @ May 4 2008, 04:46 PM) *
I love bing a Kyle Busch fan biggrin.gif
I mean, in all reality, he gives me a reason to smile.
Have a good week Jr. Nation icon_smile.gif

Thata way Kyle biggrin.gif stirthepot.gif
KCR87
I'm not stirring up no pot, I'm just saying, Junior is an act of god, and when he gets roughed up, its a double negative. I wonder how many people would cheer if it was the #24 he spun?? wink.gif
gonzo
QUOTE (kelcar14 @ May 4 2008, 06:01 PM) *
I'm not stirring up no pot, I'm just saying, Junior is an act of god, and when he gets roughed up, its a double negative. I wonder how many people would cheer if it was the #24 he spun?? wink.gif

Unlax already, JK!......The 24? I would , he's a whiner, Jr's got class, didnt hear him bad mouthin, like Kyle did to Wallace cry1.gif
KCR87
If you want to talk about whiners, lets talk about the #48 or Lebron James, I don't know who whines more.
mrvids
QUOTE (kelcar14 @ May 4 2008, 06:01 PM) *
I'm not stirring up no pot, I'm just saying, Junior is an act of god, and when he gets roughed up, its a double negative.

Does the double negative make a positive? Or do we invert and multiply? Kyle whined about the incident more then Junior did, so does Kyle's negative offset Juniors positive and make Kyle a zero?
KCR87
What does it matter?

We'll see how it shakes down in the weeks to come and ultimately at the end of the year..

Oh yeah, by the way.. as it stands right now (realistically, he wont - due to scheduling conflicts) but Kyle is 1st in NSCS points, 3rd in NNWS and 6th in NCTS points. If it played out PERFECTLY, could we see a triple crown sweep?

I know, the only reason he's there is because he wrecks everyone smile.gif
fed-up
So Kyle, if you were about to win a race (which would be pretty unlikely) and some little bitch drove you like that with 3 to go , that would be ok?
KCR87
Junior nation is out in full force.

PS. If you want to make a personal attack, bring it to my attention -- not on a public forum.
Verwayne
QUOTE (fed-up @ May 4 2008, 07:05 PM) *
So Kyle, if you were about to win a race (which would be pretty unlikely) and some little bitch drove you like that with 3 to go , that would be ok?


I'm trying to interpret the meaning of this statement myself. He could be referring to Kyle Busch, in which case, the cursing is a bit out of place.... or... he was referring to Kyle Callahan, in which case the post is inappropriate all the way around.
KCR87
V,

I don't think that Kyle Busch is viewing this board right now (If for some reason you are reading this, look at the grief you cause me just because I'm a KB fan!) , so I'm pretty sure he's reffering to me.

-Kyle.
gonzo
QUOTE (mrvids @ May 4 2008, 06:36 PM) *
Does the double negative make a positive? Or do we invert and multiply? Kyle whined about the incident more then Junior did, so does Kyle's negative offset Juniors positive and make Kyle a zero?


Yes! tongue.gif
fastbruce88
QUOTE (kelcar14 @ May 4 2008, 04:46 PM) *
I love being a Kyle Busch fan biggrin.gif
I mean, in all reality, he gives me a reason to smile.
Have a good week Jr. Nation icon_smile.gif

I knew there had to be one fan, By the way Kyle dont expect your driver to get any favors from Steven or David, next time he will be eating concrete biggrin.gif
mod88
unsure.gif And "As The Tires Spin" or is that "As The World Turns" continues. biggrin.gif
MaddMike
QUOTE (fed-up @ May 4 2008, 06:05 PM) *
So Kyle, if you were about to win a race (which would be pretty unlikely) and some little bitch drove you like that with 3 to go , that would be ok?


I take it as meaning some [insert name of choice] person who you would compare to Kyle Busch or what he did... Meaning as "Some little coward" or some little "no talent fool". Could be anybody. Nothing inappropriate nor a personal attack on kelcar14 IMO.

It's all about Karma man...

Kyle knew Jr would beat him, so he took him out. He faded after the first lap of the previous restart, so his next chance he took him out. Kyle Busch is an idiot...


It has nothing to do with who I'm a fan of either...even if I was a Kyle Busch fan myself, I still could justify him getting a fat lip and a black eye.

Jimmy Spencer rules!

Mike
KCR87
That's fine, dont take it out on me... I'm not the one wheeling the car!

It's not the name that is the personal attack, its whats in the quotes, it was un-needed. I don't have a problem with it because I'm not in cup car, nor will I probably ever be, but the negativity wasn't needed.

I just stated, I was a fan, and everyone jumps my case. I guess it's a good thing I didnt mention I'm a Gordon fan too. laugh.gif
twilber
WOW, the personnal attacks are more offending than what kyle did to Jr...
Kyle B sure did a poor job catching a car that was going out of control..
Too bad NASCAR don't use the spinner - spinnee rule.
KBM17g
Ahhh Kyle, take it as it comes.........every driver does stupid stuff. Obviously I don't condone what KB did to Steven nor Junior ( and HELL NO I"M NOT A JUNIOR FAN) but I've had to hear all the garbage spewed about being a Jeff Gordon fan for the better part of 15 years! I've even had to eat dookey because I'm not an over night sensation as a driver myself.........brush off the personal attacks. Besides all that....I do agree when JR said he had at least a top 3 car, only because I think if KB passed him CLEAN, JR probably wouldn't of had enough to get back by him.


I'm happy that a guy that gets almost ZERO attention got the win though......Clint Bowyer is a class act.
KCR87
With that being said, I'm almost as famous as Chris Stearns is! biggrin.gif
circusracer
QUOTE (kelcar14 @ May 4 2008, 08:16 PM) *
With that being said, I'm almost as famous as Chris Stearns is! biggrin.gif

Who??








lol, just kidding Chris. biggrin.gif
53onthemove
Hey Kyle don't let them rattle your cage. I remember a certain driver doing all the stuff KB is doing
and nobody complained about it. I went to Bristol a couple years and sat there in aww. My driver was punted(getting his cage rattled)and crossed the finish line backwards with the win. The next time I went down there I got to see him get his cage rattled(PUNTED) with half a lap to go.
People just laughed and thought that was ok. You never seen the ICEMAN ever get heated over that.


BTW Theres different rules and standards for different CLOWNS!!!! stirthepot.gif
KCR87
I've said the same thing, he drives the same way a certain loved one used to, yet it was OK for him to do. I've never liked the ole black and gray #3, but he's earned everyones respect.

If you painted KB's car like the ole #3 and watched them race and didnt know KB was driving it, you wouldn't know a difference wink.gif

Now THAT, will get some people fired up!
53onthemove
MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!

I respected the #3 til that day at Bristol.
Don't get me wrong the guy could drive. He was either driving good or rattling cages.

I seem to remember when Jeremy Mayfield pulled a fast one on the #3 and he wasn't happy about that at all.

To each his own but, let them crash each other out so Jimmy Johnson can win another Championship!!! violin.gif violin.gif
Grant Campau
kyle how good is that flame suit you got on? lmao.



i gotta agree on the driving styles, i missed the race, but i see sr. pop out in kb once in a while...
KCR87
I knew I needed a new fire suit, but now I better make sure I get one with all special addons and gadgets as much as I just got flamed! icon_mrgreen.gif
Grant Campau
one of those t-shirts with recirculating cool water?
Dynochick
I was just reading one of the houseblogs I read everyday. This homeowner is talking about how he is painting his Victorian era house but didn't get as much painting done as he wanted to because he wanted to watch the race.

Well...it seems this guy is a Jr fan and he totally forgets about the house and goes off on a tangent about Kyle Busch.

Damn Kyle Busch pissed everyone off. Steven Wallace, Jr., and now a Victorian house restorer. Goes to show you how many people watch Nascar races and everyone has a favorite driver or two.

Nascar is loving every minute of this.

Time for a gratutious Goooo Smoke!!!
TT22KH
NASCAR is loving this. Every sports league needs a villain; like the Yankees in baseball. The more we get mad, the more NASCAR smiles, because we are going to watch next weekend to see if anything happens.

Someone will wreck him. Its not a matter of if but of when. I'll have a good laugh when that happens too.

Callahan, just because he is named Kyle doesn't mean you have to like him. There is enough greatness between all the Kyle's on MSTRC to love! lol.
mellmotors
QUOTE (twilber @ May 4 2008, 08:02 PM) *
WOW, the personnal attacks are more offending than what kyle did to Jr...
Kyle B sure did a poor job catching a car that was going out of control..
Too bad NASCAR don't use the spinner - spinnee rule.


Yeah isn't that a joke? The local tracks send you to the back for that crap and the big boys let it go seems backwards to me. But sometimes the spinner-spinnee rule isn't enforced correctly at the local track level but if they had multiple tv angles I'm sure they could get it right. The actions of KB have been out of control for a long time. Eventually somebody will put him in his place....how about roughing up Robby Gordon he'd dish it back.
mellmotors
QUOTE (53onthemove @ May 4 2008, 10:08 PM) *
Hey Kyle don't let them rattle your cage. I remember a certain driver doing all the stuff KB is doing
and nobody complained about it. I went to Bristol a couple years and sat there in aww. My driver was punted(getting his cage rattled)and crossed the finish line backwards with the win. The next time I went down there I got to see him get his cage rattled(PUNTED) with half a lap to go.
People just laughed and thought that was ok. You never seen the ICEMAN ever get heated over that.


BTW Theres different rules and standards for different CLOWNS!!!! stirthepot.gif



You don't remember the boos that echoed in victory lane when he got out of the car? And yes the "iceman" was a little ticked off about it as he should have been. Not eveything the black and silver car did was approved by all his fans. I didn't like it and I was a huge #3 fan. And besides those were both on the LAST lap for the win right? Does it matter what lap it is when Busch decides to punt someone or destroy his own car if it isn't just right. And it's not just the stuff he's doing it's the attitude that he has. He's not the first guy to have success in NASCAR or to use the old chrome horn.
BigRon87
Wow another Kyle Busch fan. I thought I was the only one. icon_smile.gif

I watched both races this weekend. First I dont see what Kyle did to Steven Wallace. Steven jacks him up 3/4 the way down the backstretch and anyone without great car control would have wrecked it. So I think Kyle saved a big wreck there. Then someone needed to get in Steven's face. When Tony got in Kyle's face last year it helped. So maybe it will with Steven too. If you haven't noticed he has wrecked alot of stuff for no reason in his career.

The Jr. thing didnt need to happen. Kyle drove in too deep which happens to everyone and sometime and when that happens there is nothing he could have done to stay off Jr. Remember though he is only 23 (this weekend) and was just racing against the guy who took his job. He was just trying a little to hard. It happens.

Nobody remembers when Jr. wrecked Kyle twice last year in the chase. But everyone will always remember when Kyle wrecked Jr. That is what I hate about Jr. nation. Jr can do no wrong but if anyone ever touches Jr. they are booed forever.

But with that said
Kyle Busch - 2
Dale Jr. - 0
In 2008 (but that is only because Kyle wrecks everyone i know)

Man I cant wait for MIS in June to here Jr. Nation Boo the hell outta Kyle while I am there with my #18 M&M's Hat on.

Go Kyle!!!!!!
fed-up
If anyone is trying to compare Kyle Busch to the "man" , lets wait til his 7th championship and then we'll go from there !
Until then, go lay by your dish pup.
MaddMike
QUOTE (fed-up @ May 5 2008, 02:34 AM) *
If anyone is trying to compare Kyle Busch to the "man" , lets wait til his 7th championship and then we'll go from there !
Until then, go lay by your dish pup.



Yeah! What he said!
PFD
Wow!!!

In reality I think there should be more names on the list. I'm pretty sure that Kyle has taken more people out in the last month than most of these guys do in a year. Here's what I don't get. I understand hard racing, have done it myself. But you watch Burton and Kennseth run side by side for how many laps, Kennseth and Jonson, Craven and Kurt Bush, the list goes on. Anytime someone gets next to Kyle and oooopps I didn't mean to get in to him. It 's just one of those racing deals I guess. At least Tony has the common fricken courtesy to say if it's my fault I'll take the heat. I'm not a member of Jr. nation. In fact I'm not a huge fan of any one driver. I'm a fan of good racing and at the end of that race I didn't see any. Kyle needs to use his head. If he would just back off a hair he would be really good. He's got no patience. I'm sure he'll win a lot of races and everyone will eventually cheer him on. But what I loved is all that attention on Kyle Bush. Kyle this, Kyle that, Kyle will, Kyle's gonna, and look who won the race. The guy no one was talking about. Patience!! Clint put himself in a position to win that race. Good for him.



Oh and what did Kyle do to Steven, well it was a few races ago where Kyle jacked Steven up in the air down the frontstretch. So I guess Kyle needs to start taking notes on who he's hit. That way when they hit him back he knows why. Man up Kyle and take the blame.

Jimmy Spencer will you please come out of retirement for just one race. I'm sure if you were out there he'd hit you too.

I'm with Fed-Up, about the 5th championship I'll start looking at him for real to take that crown. Hell he hasn't even hit Gordon status yet.
TT22KH
I lost the little respect I had for him on the last lap of the truck race at Martinsville when he took out Benson. And then in the post race interview shrugged it off like it was no big deal.

He has no respect for any other driver and his antics will get someone hurt eventually.

There is a difference between racing accidents and plain dirty driving. He has crossed that line multiple times.
GrannySharon
QUOTE (BigRon87 @ May 5 2008, 12:09 AM) *
Wow another Kyle Busch fan. I thought I was the only one. icon_smile.gif

I watched both races this weekend. First I dont see what Kyle did to Steven Wallace. Steven jacks him up 3/4 the way down the backstretch and anyone without great car control would have wrecked it. So I think Kyle saved a big wreck there. Then someone needed to get in Steven's face. When Tony got in Kyle's face last year it helped. So maybe it will with Steven too. If you haven't noticed he has wrecked alot of stuff for no reason in his career.

The Jr. thing didnt need to happen. Kyle drove in too deep which happens to everyone and sometime and when that happens there is nothing he could have done to stay off Jr. Remember though he is only 23 (this weekend) and was just racing against the guy who took his job. He was just trying a little to hard. It happens.

Nobody remembers when Jr. wrecked Kyle twice last year in the chase. But everyone will always remember when Kyle wrecked Jr. That is what I hate about Jr. nation. Jr can do no wrong but if anyone ever touches Jr. they are booed forever.

But with that said
Kyle Busch - 2
Dale Jr. - 0
In 2008 (but that is only because Kyle wrecks everyone i know)

Man I cant wait for MIS in June to here Jr. Nation Boo the hell outta Kyle while I am there with my #18 M&M's Hat on.

Go Kyle!!!!!!

Very well put BigRon87.

Actually, after reading through all these posts I was beginning to wonder to myself if anyone else watched the same 2 races over the weekend that I watched. It sure seems like they all saw things much differently than myself. **scratching head**

I was surprised that Shrub was as easy on Steven as he was after the ramming and jacking up that Steven had given to Kyle shortly before. I am sure Kyle wanted to wreck Steven bigtime.
I watched the replays over and over and I sure don't get why everyone wants to blame Kyle for that situation.

As for Kyle and Jr, that was simply good hard racing. They both had plenty of room and either one could have chosen to move up or down just a bit on the track to give a little more space or either could have eased on the throttle slightly but......they were racing for placement, racing hard.
Those cars do not like to be that close together side by side on the track, they tend to get loose and in turns it is worse. They were equally to blame and no one was to blame.

Good point that the fans never seem to remember the times that Jr has messed up and wrecked someone or caused a wreck over the years yet they never forget anyone that has messed up Jr.

For the record, I am a Dale Jr. fan, neutral on Kyle Busch and Steven Wallace, am a Jeff Gordon fan, and a HUGE Tony Stewart fan........Go Tony!!!!!

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