Did they get a show in? Who won?

Yes we just got it in. Good thing we have a tech. barn because when it started it came down.
good job to all the winners. LS M15, FS 55, ACSS 71, HOR 3, FIG 8 32.
But besides Aaron, he has it coming.

factory stock it was mike walther #5

sorry thats what I ment

sperling has it coming from more then just the pitbull,,,,hes a no driving S.O.B every race he is in he takes out the leader

he needs to go back where he came from

Aron sperling come on you guys he is the 2007 spartin purestock track champ

What does that mean? You cant be a hack and win a chapionship? Its been done by lots of hacks especially in the lower divisions.

he probably crashed everyone

I think it is funny that all you guys are trashing Aaron, and then mentioning he is a "Spartan" Champion, almost like it is an insult.

Just thought I'd let you all know he is from Genesee County, and learned to race at Auto City & Dixie, just like all of you!!!! He didn't "crash" everyone at Spartan!!!

And he has now went back to where he came from, Auto City & Dixie!!!!

Not trying to start anything, just found those comments ironic!!!

he is a pice of s#&t

Don't you think this is carrying this a little too far.

have a good day,

schinde

I think whoever that was was defending Aron Ed. Not bashing Spartan. Maybe it was sarchastic, but its tough to be a champ at any track, and that does not nesessarily mean your a clean driver either. You know Matt I think some things should not be said in a public forum as well, but I also dont think this site should close every thread where a driver is into it with another driver. Sometimes you might not know somones pissed untill you read it on here, and than you have an exchange and in some cases the problem gets fixed. A thread was closed two weeks ago that in no way needed to be closed. It was a little heated, but it also was getting worked out. The people on this site have become very trigger happy with threads lately. This is the best place for drivers to get issues handled in some cases. You cant sit and be high and mighty and say WELL THIS HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH! Let these guys work out problems here so someone doesnt get walled or worse. Duane aint no one to have peeved at you. Maybe Aron should defend himself here so he's not at the track. JMO

That is absolutely enough of that kind of stuff.

This thread is going no where fast.

Ok Im going to go about this the right way. Nate or Duane if Aron did something wrong (and I assume he did by both of your responses.) Say what the dealio is and give him a chance to defend himself. ?(Aron I would think this is your best shot at not dealing with Duane at the track so Id take it.) I know its easy for us to get pissed and say hes a piece of crap, but V opened the thread so something can get resolved. Mind you, that the reason he closed the thread is cuz MSTRC doesnt want this site to become a bunch of racers bad mouthing one another and calling eachother names. ( not that thats not entertaining lol.) This is for the most part a good group of people, and most are friends, but the nature of racing means people are going to be hot from time to time. Duane I not saying I blame you for swearing, but you know they are going to shut you down if you do that. Right or wrong! Ill call Chad to see what happened.

well lets see first heat race..scott mader leading,sperling right behind him..kept trying to spin scott out in the corners...but scott was alttie to fast for him and he could only get his bumper...now its last lap first turn..sperling gets him in the corner kicks him sideways...scott maintained control through the corner...and stayed in the lead...turn 3 and 4 scott still leading going to win his very first race...sperling drives right into scotts left side spinning the both of them...messing up the quater panel(really bad)...he didnt lift,he drove right into him....but he took 2 other cars out in that heat race.......not to mention what he did to duane being a lap down and purposely taking out the leader....now im sorry but he is what duane said.....he caused duane the checker and he even had a half lap lead....but after he took duane out he pulled off to hurry up and load his car.....he knew we were all comming to his pits after word....thats 3 weeks in a row hes taking out the leader in his heat races...then want to keep taunting you by walking right next to your pits...one of these times someone is going to get him.......the bad part is you can not say its a racing deal...these are deliberate

After a few phone calls that is exactly what I heard Nate. These things have a way of working out. If I were Aron I'd be on the phone. Of course i would never do that. Ill bet he dont come back.

sorry it took so long for me to reply, I no longer have the internet at my house. Let me start by apologizing to Scott Mader. Even though when I go a run on him off of two and he is turning his head to see me so he can block me down in the dirt which he did. When I did spin him I did go into the corner too hot and locked up the brakes and hit him. If the race would have continued I would have tapped out and let him have his spot. Also that wasn't on the last lap and his quarter wasn't messed up at all, Plus Scott got me back in the feature by spinning me out in the feature, but nobody mentioned that. Now on to Mr. Damon, did anyone see the figure 8 race?? Did any body see when I was leading it and Duane could find a way around me so he had to slam both of our cars into a tractor tire and then after we recovered from that and still had the lead then he had to spin me out to get the lead. Did anyone see that?? If Duane would have been as fast as he says that he is he would have just passed me and that would have been the end of it. He and I had a half track lead of third place. But you guys are right I did spin duane on purpose and to be honest if I had the chance i would do it again. I have just as much right to dump him as he has to dump me. Also, does any one mention when he went speeding through the pits to try to run into my car. And to who ever said I pulled off the track early is also wrong. I stayed out even after the lead lap cars finished I still went around to complete my last lap. I just think it is funny how one sided some people are on here. In case anyone was wondering, Yes I will be there next week and the week after. I will not the anybody bully or push me around, I do not get intimidated. So that is all I feel I need to say I admited fault in one case and gave my personal justification for the other whether that is right or wrong I really don't care that is the way it is.

First I would like to thank Big Ed for adding a much needed comment to this thread. Big Ed is right, Aaron didn't crash everyone at Spartan, nor does he at any other track. In fact, last season Aaron had many car problems, one of which included crashing his Buick into the wall at Spartan going 90 mph when the throttle stuck. Aaron was back at the track the next friday with a new car. That car needed some work & on the weeks when it was not race ready, there were at least 3 people who offered their car to Aaron for him to race. If he was known for wrecking, no one in their right mind would have loaned Aaron their race car.

And again, Big Ed was right, Aaron IS "back where he came from". Aaron was born & raised in Genesee County. If the price of fuel wasn't so high & the economy was better, Aaron probably would still be racing at Spartan this season. People at Spartan are willing to help each other out. Everyone there isn't out to get each other like they are here at Auto City & Dixie.

As far as last saturdays figure 8 race is concerned, Duane got what was coming to him. Had he tried to take the lead from Aaron with motor & driving skills instead of by shoving Aaron's car into the infield, there wouldn't have been a problem. After this happened, Larry Loynes made a comment that Spearling is looking for revenge. Of course Aaron wasn't going to let Duane knock him out of the lead on purpose & then allow Duane to win the race. Aaron was man enough to admit that he was at fault for spining out Mader during the heat race. Maybe other drivers need to learn to be accountable for their actions.

Since when do pure stocks/ lead sleds do 90 at spartan??

he just needs to sell his pice of junk and stay at home ifd he come to dixie he has it coming there to

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sorry it took so long for me to reply, I no longer have the internet at my house. Let me start by apologizing to Scott Mader. Even though when I go a run on him off of two and he is turning his head to see me so he can block me down in the dirt which he did. When I did spin him I did go into the corner too hot and locked up the brakes and hit him. If the race would have continued I would have tapped out and let him have his spot. Also that wasn't on the last lap and his quarter wasn't messed up at all, Plus Scott got me back in the feature by spinning me out in the feature, but nobody mentioned that. Now on to Mr. Damon, did anyone see the figure 8 race?? Did any body see when I was leading it and Duane could find a way around me so he had to slam both of our cars into a tractor tire and then after we recovered from that and still had the lead then he had to spin me out to get the lead. Did anyone see that?? If Duane would have been as fast as he says that he is he would have just passed me and that would have been the end of it. He and I had a half track lead of third place. But you guys are right I did spin duane on purpose and to be honest if I had the chance i would do it again. I have just as much right to dump him as he has to dump me. Also, does any one mention when he went speeding through the pits to try to run into my car. And to who ever said I pulled off the track early is also wrong. I stayed out even after the lead lap cars finished I still went around to complete my last lap. I just think it is funny how one sided some people are on here. In case anyone was wondering, Yes I will be there next week and the week after. I will not the anybody bully or push me around, I do not get intimidated. So that is all I feel I need to say I admited fault in one case and gave my personal justification for the other whether that is right or wrong I really don't care that is the way it is.
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You say if you had a chance you would spin him again, where's that going to get you? i've been at all the track's for years and i've seen Duane come along way. He went from getting kicked out every week to winning a championship that shows a great deal of improvement!! I don't really think Duane meant to spin you if you were't sideways it won't happened, besides that figure eight is crazy around them corners. things are going to happen!! It is the Figure eight!!! but for you to say you did it on purpose, just shows everyone that your a dirty driver. Do you want people to know you as a role model or a drity driver? it's your choice? Next week is next week worry about that and not last week!

sounds like someone is taking a shot at the pitbull

the #8 not the pittbull if pitt dont take the #8 out i will

Chad... I'm so glad I re-opened this thread so I can read more open threats from so called "racers" to take out other drivers. You guys give racing a bad name. No more warnings... next time anyone leaving an open threat will be booted. Got it? No 'please... I was having a bad day!" or "I was drinking when I was typing that" ... just gone... for good. There are at least 20 other chatboards out there in this area that allow you to openly threaten people... but not this one. Got it?

Would this be Wayne Parkhurst??

Verwayne I know your mad i wanted this opened, and I totally agree boot anyone who openly makes a threat on here, but what you dont see happening is the "other side of the story" is being told. One person is being apologized to,and I think Mr Sparling has an opportunity to say his side before the thread gets locked. Verwayne these threads may annoy you, but good can come out of them. They are sparing with words not fist. Everyone loses when fights happen at the track. I know Duane knows all about that. Even if he does want to physically deal with Aron he has time to see his side and agree or disagree, and maybe prevent himself from being kicked out of a track. I consider Duane my friend and I like racing with him. I would rather see this dealt with before he gets to the track. Mr Damons got a very heated temper, and the only way for him to keep it cool is to get it off his chest before he's in the race car or pits. I know you have to see the possibilty of something positive happening here. Love ya V! Yuz my brotha from anotha mutha. I dont want you to be upset if you want ill moderate the lead sled guys to keep peace.

well aron i was working in mader pits...and yes it was on the last lap...and yes you did do damage to his quater panel.quite bad but we pounded it out....yes that does happen in racing...but it doesnt happen purposly....you did not lock your brakes and i doubt you even touched your brakes...you might forget your not the only one who sees what happens...there are more then just 1 set of eyes.....plus its the 3rd week you did this not to scott but to other drivers...

see this week at the track maybe this time you wont take anybody out......good luck and godspeed

the next time aaron hits my car he will have to build another car to drive and that is a fact

who is these

Well it don't look like the pitbull is the only one who wan't to take out aaron.

This is part of raceing i don't miss. Threts don't solve anything, back in the mid 90,s when i started raceing everyone was like one big family. We solved crap like this in the bar after the race, with words, most of the time.

Both of you guys have some verry young fans in the stands, they dont need to see stuff like that!!!!!! Bad sportsmanship on both sides!!!!!!Aaron, Duane i love you both just like brothers, i have been in the infield tires with both of you, that stuff happens, specially when you are going for the lead, but revenge isn't the answer!!!!!!! You guys need to find anouther way to figure this out before someone gets hurt, 3000 pound cars as weapons can never be a good thing. You want to fight with fists do it someplace away from the track where your young fans cant see, if thats the way it has to be. I konw the anger that goes with this kind of thing, i have been there. It isn't wort being bared from the track.

I still love to go to the races and see a good show, and i think you guys put on one he!! of a good one, so lets get this resolved and move on to this week, shall we.

That would be "when your throttle sticks" & your car continues to gain speed...........

It was only the last lap of the race because the race was cut short because of time. When the incident happened, there were a few (I don't remember how many exactly, I think 2 or 3) laps left of the race. So technically, both of you are correct about this.

I think you guys should get this resolved before you go racing. You are responsible to young fans. Especially Duane The Pitbull Damon. Plus Duane you know you cant control yourself when you get pissed. Aron maybe swallowing your pride just a little might have gone a long way, but instead you get on here and throw gas. I have talked to about ten people who saw everything. They say Duanes incident was racing looked like the tires got him out of control (not that it is all that easy to stay in control in fig 8 race.) and he hit you. Your retalliation is selfish and should have gotten you two weeks off. This is not how a sportsman behaves. Yeah its tough to be a big man and eat your pride once in a while, but it is smart to know when to do it. I kinda thought you might make even a little effort to smooth this out. I know I wouldnt want to be driving your car after the many conversations Ive had with racers in our division. I know thats not right either, but it appears you have a bunch of racers with no patience for your antics. You must realize that 10 drivers to 1 see it the other way here. Good luck to you. I might try to make it out Saturday. It should be interesting.

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I think you guys should get this resolved before you go racing. You are responsible to young fans. Especially Duane The Pitbull Damon. Plus Duane you know you cant control yourself when you get pissed. Aron maybe swallowing your pride just a little might have gone a long way, but instead you get on here and throw gas. I have talked to about ten people who saw everything. They say Duanes incident was racing looked like the tires got him out of control (not that it is all that easy to stay in control in fig 8 race.) and he hit you. Your retalliation is selfish and should have gotten you two weeks off. This is not how a sportsman behaves. Yeah its tough to be a big man and eat your pride once in a while, but it is smart to know when to do it. I kinda thought you might make even a little effort to smooth this out. I know I wouldnt want to be driving your car after the many conversations Ive had with racers in our division. I know thats not right either, but it appears you have a bunch of racers with no patience for your antics. You must realize that 10 drivers to 1 see it the other way here. Good luck to you. I might try to make it out Saturday. It should be interesting.
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Are you really in control in the figure 8????????

No pure stock would hit 90 mph at Spartan wide open off the pit exit..... The sportsmans at Spartan don't even hit 90. Your crazy. The Fastest LS at Auto City would hit 66 MPH down the straight, driving quite hard into the corner. Proof is by radar gun. We'll bring it to Spartan just to prove a fact.

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[quote name='stinkfist' date='Jun 11 2008, 08:59 AM' post='126916']
I think you guys should get this resolved before you go racing. You are responsible to young fans. Especially Duane The Pitbull Damon. Plus Duane you know you cant control yourself when you get pissed. Aron maybe swallowing your pride just a little might have gone a long way, but instead you get on here and throw gas. I have talked to about ten people who saw everything. They say Duanes incident was racing looked like the tires got him out of control (not that it is all that easy to stay in control in fig 8 race.) and he hit you. Your retalliation is selfish and should have gotten you two weeks off. This is not how a sportsman behaves. Yeah its tough to be a big man and eat your pride once in a while, but it is smart to know when to do it. I kinda thought you might make even a little effort to smooth this out. I know I wouldnt want to be driving your car after the many conversations Ive had with racers in our division. I know thats not right either, but it appears you have a bunch of racers with no patience for your antics. You must realize that 10 drivers to 1 see it the other way here. Good luck to you. I might try to make it out Saturday. It should be interesting.
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Are you really in control in the figure 8????????


I seen Chad Lamson and Duane run a figure 8 race like they were going in circle's, smooth, side by side battle for the lead. So YES if you're a good driver, you are in control.

My point is that yes Duane is aggresive, but I highly doubt he just blasted Aron with disregard. Maybe he did, but I kinda doubt it.

While the actual speed Aaron hit the first turn wall at Spartan may not have been 90 MPH, it WAS hard. Destroyed his car, completely!!! No one knows exactly the speed he was going. But when your throttle sticks going into the corner, and you hit the wall full force, Please, someone tell me, what does the EXACT MPH matter???

I was, and everyone else was, very happy that he wasn't seriously hurt, as any real race fan would be.

And that just might be something all of you commenting here may want to consider. All this "taking you out" crap is about as mature and professional as WWE wrestling. My goodness guys, nothing here is doing any of you, and especially local auto racing, any good at all. There will ALWAYS be two sides to every story, ALWAYS. Two drivers not seeing eye to eye isn't anything new. But this immature game is ridiculous!!!

Chad you lobbied to have Big V reopen this forum, he did. I have yet to see any good come out of it. You say that things can be settled here, instead of on the track. But what I see is it growing even more here, then if it wasn't talked about here at all. I agree that some threads are shut down too quickly, but I'm not so sure about this one.

All I know guys, if any of this retaliation stuff is brought over to a show at Spartan on a Sunday, it will NOT be tolerated at all. We'd love to have every single one of you guys over, but not at this price!!!

Unfortunately Ed I think your right. I was hoping I might be able to prevent a few racers from getting suspended or cars torn up, but to be honest, I dont care! If these guys want to tear up their equipment far be it for me to stop it. I think a little bit of caution with words on both sides might have changed the way this all went down. I'll be there with a coldie and watching the action at the Auto City Speedway! I think I might just party a bit this weekend. Fun for me repairs for you. lol I like most all the guys i know that are posting here, but Its not a good idea to put your intentions down in writing for everyone to see. This makes me glad I dont have a car.

I think i have to agree stink (if i may call you that) I know most of these racers personally and like them alot, I just hate to see sh** like this Glad i sold my car

I'm not really sure what else to say. I don't go to the race track to take people out. Racing is supposed to be about having fun while enjoying competition. I know my car has had a lot of problems this year and I am in the process of working them out. But if anyone watch the TWO cars in three weeks I have bumped in the heat race it is my car going too hard in the corner and the brakes locking up. I'm blaming it all on the car I should know better and let off sooner but I still don't have Auto City figured out. It is only my fifth week racing there. I understand Scott being mad and I apologized. I'm not trying to stir this up anymore but I hoestly believe the Duane spun my on purpose. I mean he pushed us both into tires and then when he spun me we were on the straightaway, how can anyone not think that is not on purpose?? I'm going to try to go out and take any one out this week or anyother but at the same time I am not going to taken out on purpose and just smile and walk away.

Also, to who every said I am walking by people's pits and taunting them. I park in the back at auto city and I walk into the stands to see my family and go to the bathroom. I make sure I walk at least three pits away and I don't look over or say anything when I walk by.

It is just sad that this is the reality of short track racing in Genesee County. I sure do miss Spartan.

go back then

I've ran against Aaron before in a Mini-Stock when I just first started, I recall racing with him side by side quite a bit at Owosso and never touching, I think there are alot of folks that will say the same thing I do about him racing at Spartan. I know he's a good dude, and has had a boat load of problems with his car. I would be HIGHLY suprised if he was out to take anyone out on purpose, why?, because that would be plain stupidity, on his behalf, and well, because he doesnt have a unlimited source of money to replace parts on his car either, in fact -- I believe money is why he is racing at Auto City/Dixie to begin with...

im embarassed to see some fellow autocity drivers acting like this on a public forum. i just watched the dvd today and its pretty clear. duane did run aaron off the track first, taking the lead, then aaron bumped him and made a fairly clean pass considering it was fig 8, then duane took aaron out and aaron then returned the favor... there is no innocent party here! so please stop acting like anyone was an angel, get over it boys its figure 8, as far as i can see the score is even, neither won, get over it.

not just talking about figure8 heat races and feature

Aaron is always welcome at spartan and springport. in all of 2007 he didn't touch me at all. i always enjoyed racing against aaron. aaron why don't you come run springport saturday?

come on guys every driver is guilty of a brain fart every now and then ! I'm sure Aaron will start letting of a little earlier in the heats until he gets his car figured out after all you cant win if you can not finish not a dig just reality (if you need some help come see me) and Duane was at my shop today totally cooled off ready to race clean put a end to this dont let it ruin a good time! lifes to short

After reading this thread I think I finally realize why guys are selling their racecars and buying fishing boats. Thanks for your help guys.