O.K. awhile ago I was listening to Larry's radio show on the web and they talked about the all time 1/4 mile feature race. I thought alot of guys got ommited that deserved mention. So I am gonna list 32 in rows of 2 in no particular order. they are all in their prime driving the 1/4 mile cars you remember best and everybody is on formula tires even the current guys all cars have the modern stuff to make it fair of course. after the 50 lap main, we' are gonna perform a voodoo dance that changes the track back into dirt for the next nights 50 lap main. Who do you think would win?

Row 1

3 Mike Miller 62 Mark Klein

Row 2

32 Troy "Bam Bam" Berdan 31 "Nitrous Bill" Moore

Row 3

34 Mark Verheggie 33 Greg Childers

row 4

60 Roy Sparks 83 Roy Kohloff

row 5

0 Jack Linder 0 Jimmer Daniels

Row 6

14 Bill Livesay 5 Mike Walther

Row 7

74 Mark Welch 63 Wayne Howe

Row 8

07 Wayne Bailey 91 Craig Horton

Row 9

84 Dan Bailey 2 Russ Edwards

Row 10

2 Jim Severn 66 Kevin Grizzle

Row 11

55 Robby Johnston 44 Ken Harder

Row 12

95 Tony Brabbs 71 Traft Abbott

Row 13

96 Kenny Hayden x03 Krazy Kris Henderson

Row 14

92 Don Hazel 4 Pat Bourdow

Row 15

1 Fast Eddie Hayden 91 Ten Grand Tommy Bowles

Row 16

34 "Wild" Willie Rose 50 Jay Woolworth


So there it is the ultimate 1/4 mile feature who's gonna win? the second one is a full invert of the first, sorry if your name isn't there or your favorite didn't make it make your own list. I just picked 32 of the best this isn't everybody and I know it but if you remember these guys you know this would be worth the ticket price and 2 buckets of beer.

I keep looking at this list my god it was hard to make, every time I look I keep thinking how did I forget this guy or that guy. I mean Bill Higgins, Denny Owens, Norm Wilcox, Jim Miller senior,Norm Davis, Bruce Dunton, Al Boitel, Vince Worth. I could go on for probably 2 pages of guys that belong on a Auto Ctiy 1/4 mile all star list so with much respect to all that didn't make the "A" main this week I appologize. If I made another tommorrow a bunch of names would probably change. so so many deserving. that's why 32 spots. trying to pick 24 would just be too hard.

More stars, Jay Reinbold, Ron Verheggie, Bubba Schlegel, Mike Beach. more to come.

Also worth mentioning, I wasn't born till 77 so I can't vouch for or remember the stars of the 50's 60's 70's unless they happened to still be around after I had clear memory, about 84 that's the earliest I can recall names and numbers. it got fuzzier in my teen years too, when I started paying attention to things other than race cars.

Never seen anyone better at 1/4 mile stuff , is Rick Spencer .

Agreed, gotta add Tristan Dupuis.

Where's Joe Hodgeson?
3 almost 4 in a row championships @ AC racing against some of the guys on your list.
That's my write in.........

Like I said, I just didn't remember everybody and you are right.......

John Summers

I personally think you missed a big one on that list...Ed Doutre, (No offense, but I don't mean Jr.). The old man won a lot of races back in the day. I remember a lot of nights going out to the track and watchin Uncle Ed go from worst to first...usually in a hurry. But while we are on it I think Eddie might deserve to be on there to, as compared to some of the names that I see. How about adding a row 17 to it, they can both start at the back and win anyhow.

Yeah I know all about Ed Doutre, Sr. #73 like I said I am not an elephant so it is possible for me to forget. I Everybody up there is a multiple feature winner at the city, many are champions who is so un deserving that I need to replace them with a guy that never raced there. Junior never ran at Auto City on the 1/4 and if he did he never did jack. which eliminates him from this list. Actually JAY REINBOLD isn't in the race and he's just ads good as anybody in it better than some.

BTW I mean no offense by forgetting somebody. However not gonna add guy that never raced at this track for example Wade Witherspoon, one heck of a Street Stock / Pro Stock driver, but didn't race on the 1/4 at Auto City. David and Steve Hiliker did and are deserving but since they weren't really full time I didn't include them. I mean I could put Frank Seder or Dennis Berry in there too if I wanted. Also it makes it harder by combining the pro and Factory Stock classes with the old Sportsman, the taladega bombers and the flying stocks. so it just ain't possible to make everybody happy. including me. if this turns into an name calling argument I get Chuck to lock this puppy.

ahhhhh....now i c

thought u were putting down the best's in the area not just AC, i'm with you though now

Is that the same Denny Owens that is running for office in Mundy Township?

Can you add Aaron Anthes or Glenn Morgan to the list?

tony brabbs.....pat bourdow,,,tim near....duane titmas

1/4 mile could go on forever...with names not mention.....maybe if it was still active drivers..or retired drivers you know make a catagory out of it....man there are some really great names....howe,weiss,d.berry....the list goes on....one i would like to see come back into racing is russ edwords though....that 99 was a strong runner at every track

Vonnie Prim, Brad keselowski, Jim Severn, Kevin Grizzle won so many times in the mid 90's I got sick of him winning! Doug Delduca, Bobby Murany

How about "Stormin'" Norman Wilcox in the world's fastest 4-door!

man that caprice moved,,,for that big battle tank.....kyle you forgot to mention your hole family

How bout MEL HOUSEHOLDER #61

FRANK LAMP,JR OR SR. WAY TO MANY TO LIST,

LOOK AT ALL THE MULTI TIME TRACK CHAMPIONS , JUST MAKE A RACE OF THOSE AND YOU WOULD HAVE ONE HELL OF A SHOW!

I haven't done enough to be included in that showdown!!

Maybe if it were Thunder Trucks I would be invited.

ME TO!

keep the names coming, we'll go even and odd features. and a last chance race. pick the top 10 from each for the main. 4 from the semi. Not that we gotta pick anybody. but you sure gotta love that 1/4 mile, I've seen the show stolen by every single guy named in this thread at least once.

How bout a thunder truck throwdown, J. Hayden, K. Hayden, Darren Burton, Wayne Warren, Tim Kirkland and more.......and while we're at it the ultimate spectator drag throwdown John Abee, Bob Massey,Gary Kosha, Jack Linder, Kennedy McConnel and more. plus my Dad in his 60 chevy, he never won or tried to with that car but that car sure was popular and he still has it even, and she looks better than ever. no half mile show tonight folks we won't need it.

Brabbs and Bourdow are in the race, and I put them way way in the back along with Wild Willie and 10 grand Tommy, just to make it a little bit more interesting.

I gotta think your right you better put Danny back there too. I hope he gets back out to do some racing soon. I miss watching him race.

I sure didn't put him in front!!!! he's in like row 10. I can't imagine a 32 car field on that little track but it is a badass packed 32. Plus between Mark Klein and Mike Miller on the front row if they weren't fast as everybody (like that would happen) they are both crazy tough to get around. On a side note looking at all those names it does make me a little sad to think how many of them are gone already especially Pat, Willie and Tommy.

Darren Burton, Camaro Joe (in his Mazda), and Scott Dann.......

And that dude with the monte with the big block and slicks with Nitrous.... Buck something can't remember his last name. you guys know who I mean?

them late 80's and early 90's pro stock days imo is some of the best racing i have ever seen. sometimes two wide lap after lap. 1 more name is mark welch. he use to get around that place real well also. and i believe jack linder is amongst the list of deceased as well?

Yep Welch I think is in the sixth row or something like that, and yeah Jack passed away a few years ago. Suppose I just didn't type his name, we were freinds of him and Danny Skinner back when they were a top notch street stock team. Before he died, Jack lived between my folks and Kevin Grizzle on Willard road.

Tommy Meier in his little Ford would fare well, he's a class act behind the wheel as Frank Lamp was.

THUNDER TRUCK MAIN EVENT FEATURE


ROW 1 99 WAYNE WARREN X03 DARREN BURTON

ROW 2 57 DENNIS BROOKS 3 JEREMY CRATON

ROW 3 99 JOHN VOGEL 21 NICK CLEMENS

ROW 4 77 BRIAN COGSWELL X05 MATT FILLHARD

ROW 5 22 KYLE HAYDEN 12 DONNY MATTESON

ROW 6 11 RICK WEICOREK 5 ANDREA BAXTER

ROW 7 51 JOHN BAXTER 27 J.R GOSS

ROW 8 36 ROD MARSH 70 SCOTT DANN

ROW 9 50 ED NEWMAN 7 CHAD FAUR

ROW 10 X JOHNNY HAYDEN H20 TIM KIRKLIN


THIS FIELD CONTAINS CHAMPIONS AND TRACK RECORD HOLDERS FROM AS FAR BACK AS 91-92
THIS DIVISON HAS CAME A LONG WAY , FROM THE 17 SECOND LAPS DOWN TO THE MID 15'S NOW.
1992-16.82 JOHN BAXTER
1997- 16.77 DENNIS BROOKS
1998- 16.00 DARREN BURTON
2000 - ? JEREMY CRATON

WHAT IS THE CURRENT TRACK RECORD ?
AND WHO HAS IT.

somebody everyone forgot in FS race doug delduca 14d monte carlo, he was always fast. cogswell well ran an un godly lap in the trucks 15:54


thunder truck feature
row 11 #91 Craig Horton Jr #7 Johnny Belott
row 12 #3 Thunder Chicken #17 Josh Raligh

more 1/4 mile drivers one in paticular,,, bobby hayden, if he'd have raced more, he'd probably be the most sucessfull hayden.
dan bailey
ron monroe
dave buswell
jeff owens
lonnie saumier
jim miller jr
tony basalone
ken harder

I say fast eddie would win the feature I believe he has been around forever and also has the dirt track experience. Then if you add Oconner to the list he has a lot of dirt time to I do believe. If wade witherspoon was invited he'd be my pick man will drive the wheels of any car on the dirt.

John, your cousin Ed got Doug Delduca. BTW good call on the last two rows for the truck race. Dan was in the original throwdown, but nobody has said Doug Bailey yet, so I will.

WOW THAT 15.54 IS FLYING.

MY BEST LAP WAS A 15.73 IN 1999 WITH A BIG MOTOR.
ON THE SPORTSMAN TIRES.

I WOULD TAKE DELDUCA WAS WELL AS LONG AS HE HAD HIS BIG CIGAR.

Johnny and I are actually brothers.. Kyle and Curtis are our cousins.. haha

Spectator drag showdown-- Buck Edenburn (sp) drove an early 70's monte carlo w/ a big block in it. Matter of fact if anyone can remember the night he was in the final with an 80's 2 door malibu they ran into each other on the start and didnt finish!! He put some aluminum panels all around the car and everything. I think they also timed him and he was running laps similiar to a factory stock from a dead stop

I can't help it there so many of you guys!! My bad. That Monte was a bad bad mother, Big Block, Slicks, Nitrous. That's the one I was talking about. I can't remember who drove that Malibu though, it was quick too.

Moore I think. Ricky Moore maybe.

That Monte that Buck Edenburgh(SP?) drove sits in front of a house out on M13 near Montrose.