DID they run if so any results?

It rained out...

get started?

Long enough for Pastor Randy to plant the 3:16 into the Turn 4 wall and total the car..

was he ok?

yea he turned out ok but the tow truck driver finished off the car!!

I believe it rained in the 4th heat. Pastor Randy hit the wall and the clouds opened up. Randy I hope you're ok.

As of last night, Randy was fine.

He is really bummed to see his season end early.. if anyone has a 94 Dodge Intrepid (maybe one needing a motor or trans) which they'd like to donate to the Pastor, we'll move over the other stuff.

Otherwise.. we'd look at any 6 cylinder FWD car which meets Owosso's rules

Let's see He hit's the wall,then rolls over and you say the tow truck did it in.

First he hit the wall.. then the tow truck driver went speeding through the pits and he rolled the car over, in the pits, still on the hook.

I'm glad that no one else got hit because the car was out of control and people could have gotten hurt.

Can you imagine if Randy had ridden back to the pits while sitting on the door sill like we see so many other drivers do?

-Maurice

whats bent on the car patrick? roof or front strut tower? can it be pulled back at frame shop?unless its really crumpled up i would think you could pull it back/ Rick.

And if so... You are planning on cutting the roof off to get the cage out. And then you will have to cut the roof off of another car to put the cage in that one.

Why not just cut both roofs off and install the good roof onto the 3:16 car?

How bad is that RF?

-Maurice

The #13 PureStock might tell you that you don't need a straight roof to win races.

He hit the turn four wall hard while leading the race when the right front wheel broke.

Edison Rawly at Oliver's Collision in Jackson has offered to take a look at it and see if it can be push/pulled/massaged back into usage condition.

None of the roof pillars were bent, so I think that can all be beat back into shape.

I'm most concerned about the RF strut tower... its really leaned in.

Amazingly.. at first glance.. the lower frame doesn't look bent.. its mostly the right side upper support.

The radiator didn't even get broken.

It was dark and pouring rain and I was feeling pretty down.. so I can't say I have gotten a real good deep look at it.. so it might be better, might be worse when we get back into it.

I'll take some photos and keep ya updated.

That might be a good thing, you don't have enough camber anyway.

If Edson straightens it for you, tell him to stop once the camber is at about 7 degrees. Just make sure the axle isn't binding up. If it is, adjust the engine mounts to the left a little bit. That will also put a little more weight on the LF tire to help keep it from spinning off the corners.

-Maurice

Taken from Owosso's website:
Camber RF maximum 2 inch out bottom to top.

I like this rule. More even playing field.

2 inches and 8 degrees are about the same.

That would be about 5 degrees depending on where the 2 inches is measured at.

Using that method, a shorter tire would be able to run more camber. That's why I prefer measuring in degrees. Using a carpenter's square is not a good way to measure camber.

5 degrees would still be OK with a good shaved tire.

-Maurice

anyone have some 10" tall rims for a Saturn?

The races got rained off sat..
whats up with the half off grand stand admission.
And then the pit passes are worth nuttin whats up with that???

I agree we get half the start money we should get back in for half the gate fee then also.

Please tell me thats not true. I asked at the front gate before I left and I was told my pit pass was "good for next week"......so I left.

Where did this info come from?

Derek.. I don't think the information posted above is factual.

I'd wait for Rick or Jeff to post something.

Even the grandstand policy is unclear.. is it two 1/2 price tickets for the next two weeks or just good for one 1/2 price ticket on either of the next two weeks ?

Think of it this way. Let me know if it makes sense

In the minis we are getting half start money. So 25 bucks. If was postponed we would get a pit pass to the next week for the rainout
So I am getting in free this week when they pay me for last week. Now some classes. Like street stocks. Would you rather have gotten in free this week or half start money? Seems to me you are making out better with this arrangement. Now I can understand being a bit upset about crew passes not being good again. But I don't think with the owners being so new that they could sustain a big financial hit like that

Does any of that make sense?

The higher classes didn't burn up $50 worth of fuel and they didn't wear a tire out. So they are saving money and coming out quite well with an additional half purse.

When it rains, everybody has to pitch in and share the burden in a fair way. Nobody can control the rain. And the track has already proven they will do everything possible to get the show in. So, drivers must give a little as well. The track isn't making money on the rain out.

-Maurice

8-23-08 at the Big O was quite a night! For the first time all year, the weather reports that I had listened to or watched were spot on! The weathermen/women said that it was going to rain at 8:00pm and then it did! (But I'm still not letting Hollywood off the hook)

When it started to rain just after 8:00 we were checking the weather reports with several sources. The reports that we were getting were telling us that we were catching the tail end of it and it would be over in about 15 minutes. We waited and we waited until the weather report said that it was here to stay. It was close to an hour that we were in the rain delay. Obviously most everyone had left and most everyone had questions as they were leaving as to what we were going to do with tickets and pit passes. Since we had not made any decisions before people were leaving for their cars, our gate people did the right thing by telling customers to hang onto their tickets or pit passes.

Here is officially what we have done:
We consider 8-23-08 as a complete night of racing. We ran 5 events including qualifying. All drivers got points for qualifying and for the heats that they competed in. We paid all of the heats that were run. We also paid all registered drivers half of the starting feature money for their class as a reimbursement for taking a chance to make it there to compete. We will not be issuing points for those features which we did not run. We are also offering one free pit pass to each driver that hauled over 50 miles last week for 8-30-08 or 9-06-08 so that the Limited Late Model drivers can be included. Jeff has made a valiant effort to contact every driver personally this week to let them know what we have done. We will not be running for double points on 8-30-08 and we will not be running double features. I will be outside at the pit gate to answer any questions and hear any concerns from noon until 5:00 pm on Saturday. Please take your issues up with me face to face and not with our staff inside the pit booth who are trying to serve the racers as efficiently as possible. Call me anytime this week @ (810)845-1105.

On the front gate side we decided to offer a half off discount to anyone that brings their ticket from last week. We realize that some fans were there because the Limiteds were racing on 8-23. That is why we are offering that discount for either 8-30 or 9-06. We will also be offering that grandstand discount to anyone that brings a wrist band from the pits to the main gate. It will be good for a discounted grandstand ticket only. It will not be discounted on a pit pass.

These are some tough decisions that we are forced to make because of things beyond our control, such as the weather in this case. We make our decisions based on what is best for our two customer bases, the pit side and the grandstand side. We try to do what is best for the big picture and we are not trying to alienate anyone or any group. We do realize that we can not please everyone because of their own personal situation and we apologize if our policy or our reasoning does not seem fair. We have a terrific staff that is dedicated to serving the racers and the fans and I appreciate all that they do for the amount of money that we are able to pay them. If you have any issues that you feel we need to know, please bring them to me and allow our staff to keep doing their jobs. I take full responsibility for our decisions and policies and I will hear you out. Call me anytime @ (810) 845-1105 or I'll see you Saturday.

Thanks,
Rick Miracle

Which would be great if I would have been informed of that and actaully collected any money. Instead I was told my pitt pass was good for next week and I left. So now I don't now if I will get the 1/2 start money or not and It doesn't sound like my pit pass is any good.

I think double features should be ran if thats how its going to work. You bought two passes and got paid for 1 and 1/2 races. But you get to run double features to make up for it. Anybody with me? No heats and just run last weeks features, then intermission and then this weeks features.

Derek,
I think that you may have been writing your post when I put mine on there and so you didn't read it before you sent your post.

Your money will be waiting for you in the pits when you get there.

All drivers were paid half of the start money for their division. There were no features run and therefore no cost involved to the racer for running that feature. We also paid for the heat races that were run.

Thanks, call me if you have any more questions. (810) 845-1105

Sounds more than fair to me. I don't know of any other track that would have done that! Great Job guys.


Ray

they should be thankful to get half the start up money. the rules say that 5 events is a full show. that includes time trials. so i think it was nice of them to give any start up money out of there pocket when they did't have to. thanks rick and jeff. you guys sre trying.

technically speaking.. 3 heats and qualifying = 4

well i was asking on a fans point of view.
because im not a racer so i don't get half of the start money.
I was just wondering what was going on with the pit passes.
But thanks Rick for the explanation it helped tons.

4 Heats were ran, 3 were completed.

It becomes very muted when a heat runs less then half the laps scheduled and it rains.. that's not a completed race. And the rules state that the show will be considered full when 5 events are completed..

v) RAIN OUT policy. In the event of a RAIN OUT or weather related postponements, once five (5) racing events have been run, (this includes qualifying) the race is considered a complete race and no rain checks will be issued. At least the features from the postponed show will be made up at the next available date. If
five (5) events have not been completed, your general admission or pit passes will be good for the next show of equal or lesser value.

I don't care one way or the other.. it was a complete loss for me and one which I can not recover from. I just stating what the rules state, since Mark was being specific and technical.

So does that mean I won? lol

Thanks for the explanation Rick, you're right I was typing my post the same time as you.

The wrecker driver actually made the most laps in that race since the little cars couldn't get their act together for more than one lap at a time.

Really do you know how much fuel we burn during hot laps and how much tires wear and not to figure wear and tear the motor goes through just courious ?

Yes, I do know, and it's all a part of racing. It's what we sacrifice in order to compete in this sport.

-Maurice

That's funny - LITTLE CARS

Actually the "LITTLE CARS" made many many many laps, just not under the green. It appeared that only some of the "LITTLE CARS" were unable to keep out of trouble. Most actually could and would race caution free! I think all of the cautions were the cause of just two of the "LITTLE CARS" and those were the slightly larger and heavier "LITTLE CARS".

Ding Ding!!!

I was getting a little frustrated watching the guys ahead of me bump'n and bang'n, spin out etc...

It's a heat race

We'll all make the feature if we don't tear each other up in the heat

You generally cannot win the race on the first lap

Calm down...wooo saaa...remember your pressure points

We'll try it again soon...

Thanks
-JT

[quote name='Exit82' date='Aug 27 2008, 03:39 PM' post='138310']
So does that mean I won? lol


Ha! I would have been all over you like a rat on a cheeto if we would have went green again.

Good luck this weekend.

Thanks
-JT

Then you know that some of use to spend that much . Thank you

Yes I agree. To bad that race couldn't finish it would have been fun. You coming back this weekend?

I know that JT has a gig this weekend which will keep him away from the Big O this week..

Darren Bohn might be back though..

[quote name='mrvids' date='Aug 27 2008, 03:44 PM' post='138313']
The wrecker driver actually made the most laps in that race since the little cars couldn't get their act together for more than one lap at a time.
[/quote Not I, I was riding around the back watching everyone tear 'em up.LOL. I was thinking.... (and this is only a heat race.)

AMEN.

It would have been a fun race indeed.

Patrick is correct, my band is playing in Stanton this weekend so we will not be at the Big O.

Good Luck to you guys!
-JT