THESE WILL BE THE RULES FOR THE 2008 WHITTEMORE SPEEDWAY INVITE.

"ZAWACKI ENGINES" LEAD SLEDS,
STOCK CAST IRON STRAIGHT PLUG OPEN CHAMBERED HEADS ONLY, NO VORTECS NO CAMEL BACKS, NO FUEL INJECTED ENGINES ALLOWED, MAX COMPRESSION 9.5 TO 1, STOCK STROKE ONLY, MAX CAM LIFT .410, NO ROLLER ROCKERS, STOCK CAST IRON INTAKE, NO MARINE INTAKES ALLOWED, STOCK CAST IRON EXHAUST MANIFOLDS, NO CENTER DUMPS ALLOWED, CROSSOVER IN TO A SINGLE 2 INCH EXHAUST, ROLLED SEAMED MUFFLER, STOCK AUTOMATIC TRANS, NO POWER GLIDES, MIN 12 INCH WORKING CONVERTER, 8 INCH WHEELS 75 SERIES RADIAL TIRES, 7 INCH 60 SERIES RADIAL TIRES, NO MADE FOR RACING TIRES, RECAPS, OR 50 SERIES TIRES ALLOWED, SUSPENSION MUST BE STOCK, NO SHIMS OR SCREW JACKS, STOCK CLOSED AIR CLEANER ONLY, NO WINGS. spoilers allowed, exhaust must go into muffler 2inch and come out 2 inch, 3550total weight , 52%left, 55%min front weight. Engines must be stock no performance enhancing parts, stock oem alum. intakes ok

Sappinton oil company 4CYL
REAR WHEEL DRIVE 2500 LBS, FRONT WHEEL DRIVE UNDER 2000CC 2250 LBS, OVER 2000CC 2350 LBS, , STOCK 350CFM HOLLEY, OR STOCK FUEL INJECTION, ALL STEAL BODY PANELS, OR PLASTIC OEM PANELS, NO RACING TIRES ALLOWED, 60 SERIES MAX RADIAL TIRES ON 8 INCH WHEEL, HEADERS ALLOWED MUST ADD 50 LBS.

"HARSEN CHASSIS" FACTORY STOCKS,
3200 LBS, MIN WHEEL BASE 108", PERFORMER INTAKE, 4412 500CFM HOLLEY, NO PANHARD, J BARS, WATTS LINKS, OR 3 LINK SUSPENSIONS, MAX 8 INCH WHEEL HOOSIER 970 TIRES ONLY, NO WINGS, OR REMOVAL OF BODY PANELS, TRUCK BODIES ARE ALLOWED. front shocks may be relocated, 60% max left side weight.

"THE BUS STOP INN" MODS
2400 LBS, 8 INCH WHEEL WITH HOOSIER 970 TIRE ONLY, NO WINGS OR REMOVAL OF PANELS, MCAR, MMA, USA MOD RULES LEGAL BRING RULE BOOK.

" RENO ENTERPRISES" LATE MODELS
OUTLAW 2850 LBS BEFORE FEATURE 60% LEFT SIDE WEIGHT, DIXIE TEMPLATE BODY WEIGHT RULES APPLY, HOLLEY 4412 500 CFM CARB, NO DRY SUMPS, NO ALUM HEADS. OVER 360 CUBIC INCH ADD 100 LBS, 8 INCH WHEEL HOOSIER 970 ONLY. NO WINGS OR REMOVAL OF PANELS, 72 X 8 INCH MAX SPOILER.

THE INVITE SCHEDULE
SEPT 6TH TEST AND TUNE NOON TILL 5PM
SEPT 13TH TEST AND TUNE NOON TILL 5PM
SEPT, 19TH 5PM TILL 10 PM PRATICE,
SEPT 20TH GATES OPEN AT 9 AM HOTLAPS 11AM, QUALIFYING NOON, RACING 2:30PM
Pay outs will be posted soon
THANKS,
RON HEAL
2008 PRESIDENT
ron99heal@yahoo.com
For your racing parts needs 989-482-2216

Ron, Do we still have to run 4 225/75/15 or can we mix tire sizes? Staying with all 75 series? Be nice to put some stagger in the car. Tom.

are we to take these rules as is? or is there an elaboration on any part?

Grant, these are it!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD. Let the real fun begin.

for the sleds, it says no wings but are spoilers going to be legal again this year?

Wow no weight rule for the sleds!!! Hey do you guys at Whittemore know that every local track down here lets you run the new style cat aluminum intake? I know that a bunch of cars will show up with them on, so be ready to DQ if you arent going to let the guys run them.

Looks as far as the Led Sleds go, your stopping all of us AC, Dixie, and Owosso guys from coming. Not to mention, Spartan and Springport as well. Maybe you should look into that, and copy the rules from down here. And as far as it being an "Invite" isn't it bring your rulebook, and you're legal. The exhaust is the biggest issue. Our rules read 12" of 2" before and after the muffler.

that does stop all the owosso cars becouse our car has two and a half exhaust on it as well as many others down here. and we was planning on coming up but i guess we just saved some gas money. i will miss the good pancackes they had last year. oh well

The smart move would be to allow 2.5 inch. This makes Owosso, Spartan, and Springport legal.

the smart move would be not to drive as long and go to owossso its the same weekend at it

Owosso classes scheduled on the whittemore invite weekend (9/20/08) is:

Dirt Figure 8's

FWD invitational

Mini Cup Season Championship

Kids Carnival Night.

We specifically left classes off the schedule so people could enjoy Whittemore if they chose to. I believe Whittemore added the exhaust rule to be more dixie ac friendly to even up the competion.

My suggestion is to go to thier website and ask questions in a polite way and get your answers. Good Luck! Jeff

"No Watts Links" bans all 2000 and newer Ford Crown Vics from running FS

No 70's series looks like I may be going fishing. Maybe someone has some spare 75s I could borrow ?

I thought that too Jim. Read closer 75 only on 8inch wheels 60-70s are allowed on 7inch wheels. Still bumming on the intake thing. Maybe ill go with you lol.

autocity rules =B. Engine must be STOCK !!! See weight rule! Any cubic inch displacement OK G. ABSOLUTELY NO MACHINING OR ALTERING OF ENGINE COMPONENTS ...... >>> so for the aluminum intake thing i dont think any of are car came stock with it unless it was with the 305 or something right

most of the cars in the 80s came with factory aluminum intakes, they dont flow any better than a cast one, in fact some claim that the older cast iron ones flow the best. Im not really sure why this would be an issue unless its because there is no weight rule for the invatational.

as far as the tires go, im pretty sure owosso and spartan cars are allowed 8in rims and 70 series tires, so cars from that area would be forced to either buy 7in rims, or new 75 series tires, either choice wouldnt be worth the expense if you ask me.

I think they should read all the other tracks rules and open their rules up to let more cars run. I raced there in the late models and there was only 20 cars. Not many for an invitational. More west side cars wanted to come over but the leftside rule and adding 150 lbs stopped many of them. The 2bbl rule stopped the rest of them. The factory stock need to open their rules up to allow Ford. the 3 link rule stops newer Fords from running stock links on the rearend. Open it up so dirt street stock can run the race also. It was a good time over there last year and don't be to suprised if you see the blue #11 late model show up again this year

I have a Dixie legal FS with relocated front shocks, But with these rules I can't run. I am not cutting my weight jacks out for one night. I thought this was an INVITE! Whats the deal? I've been planning this for a year. Whittemore was supposed to have the same FS rules as Dixie anyway, but that changed somewhere along the way.

Lead sled guys sorry I over looked the weight rule. Factory stock guys front shocks is a oversight on our part we did not know dixie allowed relocated front shocks we have a meeting tonight and I will address this problem,

If the front shocks deal is allowed then I sure hope the rear suspension rules stay the same.

what about the 4cyl rules no dohc we ran up there a month ago and we where legal so can we come and run the invite

i am bummed i have been planing to go all year then come to find out we cant come because our exhaust is 1/2 of an inch to big we are running an all 100% stock 350 so it not like we were going to win we just wanted to have some fun but all well guess we cant go now .it should be a run what you brung (to a certain extent) but hope ya'll have fun.good luck

I would have to say if it is an invite run your track rules, SIMPLE. Doing that you will get alot of cars and from past experience Whittemore guys have more smoke anyways we just out handle them. A true invite always has been if your legal at your track then your legal. Don't ruin a great thing cause we all have fun there and we all want to come up and race with you guys. Let us all just come up and have a fun weekend up-north. Thanx

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh............Will be fun.............Has been fun.............Gonna be fun................Cant make everyone happy!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok guys the changes are updated in the rules, front shocks may be relocated, 60%left max in the factory stocks,
lead sleds, no performance enhancing engine parts, exhaust must be 2 inch in muffler and 2 inch out of muffler with at least 24 inch long pipe after muffler, as far as a run what you brung thing we did that last year and it was not good for car count, this class is going to be racing for a motor and we want the cars as close as possible We are sorry if this rules out your car, but our rules are a lot closer to dixe and auto city, than they are other tracks. We want everyone to come and have a great time. Maybe you could make a few minor changes to your car and come up. 4cyl guys you can bring your dual overhead cams.

Well the exhaust was the issue I seen and that is better, It should be 12 inches of 2 inch before and 12 inches after the muffler totaling 24 inches. Now we just need to be able to run our 70 series tires cause that is what we run around here at auto city and dixie.

Mike,
You are able to run your tires, it is clarified in there. 8 inch rims can run 75 series, 7 inch rims can run 60 series (or narrower if preferred).

"ZAWACKI ENGINES" LEAD SLEDS,
STOCK CAST IRON STRAIGHT PLUG OPEN CHAMBERED HEADS ONLY, NO VORTECS NO CAMEL BACKS, NO FUEL INJECTED ENGINES ALLOWED, MAX COMPRESSION 9.5 TO 1, STOCK STROKE ONLY, MAX CAM LIFT .410, NO ROLLER ROCKERS, STOCK CAST IRON INTAKE, NO MARINE INTAKES ALLOWED, STOCK CAST IRON EXHAUST MANIFOLDS, NO CENTER DUMPS ALLOWED, CROSSOVER IN TO A SINGLE 2 INCH EXHAUST, ROLLED SEAMED MUFFLER, STOCK AUTOMATIC TRANS, NO POWER GLIDES, MIN 12 INCH WORKING CONVERTER, 8 INCH WHEELS 75 SERIES RADIAL TIRES, 7 INCH 60 SERIES RADIAL TIRES, NO MADE FOR RACING TIRES, RECAPS, OR 50 SERIES TIRES ALLOWED, SUSPENSION MUST BE STOCK, NO SHIMS OR SCREW JACKS, STOCK CLOSED AIR CLEANER ONLY, NO WINGS. spoilers allowed, exhaust must go into muffler 2inch and come out 2 inch, 3550total weight , 52%left, 55%min front weight. Engines must be stock no performance enhancing parts, stock oem alum. intakes ok

Andy

Thanks Andy, Looks like I'll have to talk the new owner into letting me run it for these last two invites (Whittemore and Owosso). Either way we will be in attendance with the Factory Stock. See you all then!

wellim not changing a thing to run up there...not my muffler not my exhaust pipes...i ran up there twice this year...i was competitve then....im not changing a thing.....dq me....there going to have to put the boots to the 2 car though ....he should run the fs class.....guys just go lets go and have some fun......

Have heard the #2 is sold, either way that car has to make a change to be legal in the Lead Sled class at the invite.

The 2 car didnt set fast time out last time either. When bob changed his motor it leveled the playing field a TON!

"HARSEN CHASSIS" FACTORY STOCKS,
3200 LBS, MIN WHEEL BASE 108", PERFORMER INTAKE, 4412 500CFM HOLLEY, NO PANHARD, J BARS, WATTS LINKS, OR 3 LINK SUSPENSIONS, MAX 8 INCH WHEEL HOOSIER 970 TIRES ONLY, NO WINGS, OR REMOVAL OF BODY PANELS, TRUCK BODIES ARE ALLOWED. front shocks may be relocated, 60% max left side weight.

ok. the shock thing is not a problem anymore but the "stock watts link" still isn't legal. I have to work anyway but it would be nice if it were legal. I would make the effort to get it there.

who did he sell the car to andy?

ONE question WHITTIMORE allows tire soaking so if they come down here to invites they get to soak their tires? THEN you should get to soak your tires correct? JUST curious

ive never seen or heard of tire soaking, i thought it was illegal at all tracks.

60% left side!!!???!!!

Is that what they normally run?

Most other tracks are 55%.

THATS what i heard someone that races up there said the track is so rough and they couldnt afford to repave it and it eats up tires they let you soak them looked on their site and couldnt find anything. I dont know maybe somebody was messing with me. I KNOW its ILLEGAL at alot of tracks just saying what somebody said. MAYBE somebody that runs their can say for sure

Grant, I don't know who Bob sold his car to - but he did call me friday to talk to Justin and he said he had sold it.

hmm, thats too bad jeff, joes brother was gonna talk to him at the invite about it, cash in hand... o well...

the track is rough, there may be tire soaking. ive never seen any, or smelled any of it. the track does like to chew up the 970s on the factories.

60%!?!?!?! ron why are we running so much left side? thats sportsmen territory.

Yes,You can soak tires at Whittemore.

Looks like I better get on that.

Last year we never put a left side rule in the factory stocks for the invite, we normally run 55%, but it was voted on to just make it 60% for the invite. And also we allow tire soaking at whittemore, I know a couple guys who do soak and they are no faster than the guys who dont soak.

The payout is posted on our website. I heard Bob Robinson bought the 2 lead sled.

We are giving alot of prizes away on the grandstand side for our invite, Big flat screen tv, gas cards, grocery cards, gift certificates, cash, should be big fun for everyone.

So you guys are going to disallow Spartan and Owosso cars? Isnt Owosso supposed to be your sister track. All the guys with the two inch 12 inches before and after the muffler have to do is take off the 12 inch section of 2" and move the muffler. Think about how many cars youll gain by making 2.5" exhauust legal. I know you want (and shoulod ) keep the rules tight, but think about what is the easiest to accomadate the most cars. Allowing 2.5" is the easiest way to accomadate all cars in the area cuz AC and dixie cars already have the 2.5 there they just have 12" of 2" to get rid of. The Owosso and Spartan/Springport cars are all 2.5". I have both cuz I race at AC and Owosso, but most dont.

On another note I hope its no too cold for a tent cuz thats what the kids and I are stuck in this year.

Chad, I cant speak specifically for the president of Whittemore anymore but I do know they tightened up on the exhaust specifically because of complaints by east side drivers last year that could not keep up as well with the whittemore cars that took advantage of open exhaust rules for the invite. It is there call on what they will do- but they did listen last year.

If it were just an exhaust issue, it would be 2 1/2". But there is more than just that rule that seperates Owosso pure stock from Whittemore, Dixie, and Auto City, without drivers having to spend $$$$$ to race 1 time.

Andy

If I race it isnt an issue to me I was just thinking of the Owosso cars, but if your running them no biggie.

Chad, if the race weekend is anything like these last few nights, id bring a small Mr.Heater or find a camper. Its gettin borderline tent weather unless we get 80's again, or a foot of snow for the Invite.

Im thinking my motor will not be paid for in time for the invite so it likely will not matter. Im hoping I can get something worked out, but it doesn't look good. I also have a bent race car from this weekend, so I might be a good time to call it a season.